PC underperforming

[Majestic]

Guys, how many times do I need to post this freaking topic before people start to get it?

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/894384-stutters-framedrops-lag-how-to-provide-detailed-information-with-your-bottleneck-question-as-well-as-a-few-solutions/

 

It's been posted on the majority of these topics since february. I'm not saying you should all be at awe of my post, or only use that particular post (as it is pretty crudely written). But the idea of it was to inspire people to first ask for data, then analyse said data and THEN make suggestions. Not throwing spaghetti at the wall and look what sticks.

 

Very disappointing not a single person is asking for a single sliver of data beyond the generic userbenchmark.

[Blindleader44]

8 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

I wasnt trying to be tbh. Youre definitely not the only one who recommends that, so im sorry if it seemed like that. Ive just seen so many people asking for help like the OP and so many times people are just like "reinstall the OS". 

 

It can sometimes be necessary to do so but i think its best to establish whats wrong so it can be hopefully quickly fixed, and if the person finds out why their computer was messed up hopefully they can prevent it from happening again.

 

If they have some really sophisticated rootkit then reinstalling is a good option or if SFC and DISM or other built in windows recovery doesnt work then definitely reinstall. 

 

But in so many threads with stuff that ends up being five minutes to fix i dont think its sound advice to reinstall. 

Okay i gotcha no hard feelings

[Amazonsucks]

6 hours ago, Majestic said:

Guys, how many times do I need to post this freaking topic before people start to get it?

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/894384-stutters-framedrops-lag-how-to-provide-detailed-information-with-your-bottleneck-question-as-well-as-a-few-solutions/

 

It's been posted on the majority of these topics since february. I'm not saying you should all be at awe of my post, or only use that particular post (as it is pretty crudely written). But the idea of it was to inspire people to first ask for data, then analyse said data and THEN make suggestions. Not throwing spaghetti at the wall and look what sticks.

 

Very disappointing not a single person is asking for a single sliver of data beyond the generic userbenchmark.

His computer is malfunctioning and has severely degraded performance. Its not "bottlenecking". And he gave enough info for me to write the detailed response on the previous page on how to troubleshoot and fix it. The pertinent info was: computer is SLOWER after time and tripling his GPU performance didnt benefit his performance.

[Majestic]

5 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

His computer is malfunctioning and has severely degraded performance. Its not "bottlenecking". And he gave enough info for me to write the detailed response on the previous page on how to troubleshoot and fix it. The pertinent info was: computer is SLOWER after time and tripling his GPU performance didnt benefit his performance.

I'm not saying it's bottlenecking. I'm saying you don't know without looking at the data. For all you know it could be thermal throttling somewhere at the VRM.

[lukeberg]

On 12/1/2018 at 6:41 PM, Amazonsucks said:

His computer is malfunctioning and has severely degraded performance. Its not "bottlenecking". And he gave enough info for me to write the detailed response on the previous page on how to troubleshoot and fix it. The pertinent info was: computer is SLOWER after time and tripling his GPU performance didnt benefit his performance.

Thank you for the detailed response! I really appreciate each and everyone of you guys trying to help me!
I took your advice and ran Malwarebytes (with rootkit detection) and unfortunately nothing was found.Same with the SFC command, so no progress there unfortunately. 

[Amazonsucks]

1 hour ago, lukeberg said:

Thank you for the detailed response! I really appreciate each and everyone of you guys trying to help me!
I took your advice and ran Malwarebytes (with rootkit detection) and unfortunately nothing was found.Same with the SFC command, so no progress there unfortunately. 

Ok how about the clean driver install and not installing GFE? GFE tends to mess stuff up.

 

Have you checked GPU voltages and temps while playing recently?

[Tristerin]

On ‎12‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 5:03 AM, vuki300 said:

how tf do you install windows in 10 minutes

yeah it takes ~15 minutes but  do you have no programs installed 

USB3 stick with good speeds to an SSD with good speeds I think 7-10 minutes average install time.  The ISO I use is from November 2017. 

 

Takes about 2 minutes to get GPU drivers...another 2 minutes to get my stress test software downloaded - unless you live in the sticks - and Im off to the races figuring out what the issue is. 

 

I still love that Fresh Install feeling

 

And I only game - so my data is on a NAS so I don't have the issues of reinstalling whenever I want to.

 

[lukeberg]

18 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Ok how about the clean driver install and not installing GFE? GFE tends to mess stuff up.

 

Have you checked GPU voltages and temps while playing recently?

The drivers also did nothing. GPU temp around 60C in GTAV. I don't really know whats considered normal/good in MSI Afterburner when its comes to usages and such.

[vuki300]

18 hours ago, Tristerin said:

USB3 stick with good speeds to an SSD with good speeds I think 7-10 minutes average install time.  The ISO I use is from November 2017. 

 

Takes about 2 minutes to get GPU drivers...another 2 minutes to get my stress test software downloaded - unless you live in the sticks - and Im off to the races figuring out what the issue is. 

 

I still love that Fresh Install feeling

 

And I only game - so my data is on a NAS so I don't have the issues of reinstalling whenever I want to.

 

Yes but you need to backup your files and install programs

or do you just use your computer to see if it works after reinstalling

Would take me like atleast a couple of hours to install all these

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Razer Synapse (annoying to install)

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Anydesk
Teamviewer
Steam (needs to find games on other partitions)
Vegas 15 (annoying to install)
OBS (profiles gone)
Geforce Expirience (takes some time)
Discord
Lightshot
Spotify
Photoshop (takes a minute)
Java 64
Battlenet
Opera

 

[Tristerin]

4 hours ago, vuki300 said:

Yes but you need to backup your files and install programs

or do you just use your computer to see if it works after reinstalling

Would take me like atleast a couple of hours to install all these

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Razer Synapse (annoying to install)

hue+

Anydesk
Teamviewer
Steam (needs to find games on other partitions)
Vegas 15 (annoying to install)
OBS (profiles gone)
Geforce Expirience (takes some time)
Discord
Lightshot
Spotify
Photoshop (takes a minute)
Java 64
Battlenet
Opera

 

No I don't need to backup - NAS - for all my photos/videos/docs I want to keep. 

 

As a Gamer (MY use case) it takes zero time to download games (it is the 21st Century and all, and unless you live in the sticks...you should have good internet...if you don't...I feel bad for you son...I got 99 problems but download speed aint one)

 

The point of the reinstall, and the topic itself, is diagnosing and fixing your PC.  If I cant use my PC, I cant use any of those programs we so dearly care about in the first place - so what matters most to me (as a father of 2 kids, business owner and full time corp job) is TIME - a reinstall is nothing, and so is downloading the bare minimum if I desire to get right back into gaming.  But we are off topic at that point - since it will either fix the issue or wont and we still have to diagnose - however we are way ahead of the game...a Fresh Install quickly can help me pinpoint the hardware issue. 

 

Me?  Im an above average user - so I can self diagnose (see also; Google-Fu) most issues and haven't had to reinstall Windows 10 for this reason in a long time...but for the average user, this can fix a plethora of bullcrap.  I.E. Bloatware, Stupid things that the average user downloads like explorer bars etc, malware, virus, etc.  So right out of the gate...we can eliminate software or a virus as the issue with a fresh install.  Just my 2 cents on the topic - because we are trying to help and diagnose someones PC who doesn't even know what the parts are over a modicum of communication of text on a forum.  So yes I still believe this is one of the best things the average PC user can do in times of troubles.

 

 

[bigethab]

I see this thread is kinda old, but wanted to ask if you got this sorted?