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I had to go to wally-world tonight. As usual, I strolled through the electronics department hoping to score a good deal on something.

 

Something caught my eye....A black cased, green lit, pre-built HP "gaming" system for $600. Some of you may have seen a video from a rival Youtube channel about a Walmart "gaming" PC. Well, I'm here to tell you....they are confirmed garbage.

 

First off...it's from HP ('nuff said).

Second...I looked at the side of the box for specs. I read one, and only one, line...the first line of specs - "GTX 1050".

 

I stopped there and walked away. I looked it up once I got home, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Garbage. Hell, I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I have a 1060. And a 3gb at that! Granted, I only care about 1080p.

 

I looked it up when I got home, its a Ryzen 2400G to top things off. I suppose for an "entry level" gaming rig, it's not tooooo bad, but it sure as hell ain't worth $600. The look of it is it's only redeeming feature IMO.

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8 minutes ago, Compassionate Homicide said:

Something caught my eye....A black cased, green lit, pre-built HP "gaming" system for $600. Some of you may have seen a video from a rival Youtube channel about a Walmart "gaming" PC. Well, I'm here to tell you....they are confirmed garbage.

 

First off...it's from HP ('nuff said).

Second...I looked at the side of the box for specs. I read one, and only one, line...the first line of specs - "GTX 1050".

HP computers are generally garbage, this is true.

But, a "mid-range" quad core CPU (like the 2400G) and a 1050 for $600 is actually what you want to see. I picked up my Dell Inspiron Gaming laptop for that (has i5-7300HQ and 1050), so....

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*GPU Test Bench*

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Different gaming PCs.

 

For 600 that's not really that terrible. The CPU is 200, the GPU is 150-200, the case is probably 70, the HDD is 50, the ram is 80. That's almost 600 right there. Plus LED and it's a prebuilt. Honestly if someone were looking for that system it's not a terrible deal. 

 

Certainly not worth a "OMG I JUST SAW THE WORST THING EVAR" post. ;)

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I can say with confidence that a R5 2400G + 1050 system is $600

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $157.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $65.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $57.99 @ Newegg Business
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB ACX 2.0 Video Card $149.99 @ Newegg Business
Case Corsair - SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case $33.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $65.98 @ Newegg Business
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $621.91
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $591.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-28 00:48 EST-0500  

 

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*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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That's actually alright. Now tech enthusiasts can certainly build put together something better and cheaper, but for the mom and dad buying a pc for their child wanting to play Fortnite, it's not bad at all. A pretty good deal imo.

 

tbh I cringed hard reading this post.

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Inside some old case I found lying around.

 

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Find me a better deal in a pre built?

 

I can't find anything much better in a premade destktop. 

 

And if you go diy its a 50 dollar savings, not that much really

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H7BHLJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H7BHLJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($157.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.99 @ Monoprice) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($22.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($98.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $550.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-28 00:49 EST-0500

 

 

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 

A320, disgusting

Primary PC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8G3tXv (Windows 10 Home)

HTPC: - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdBb4n (Windows 10 Home)
Server: Dell Precision T7500 - Dual Xeon X5660's, 44GB ECC DDR3, Dell Nvidia GTX 645 (Windows Server 2019 Standard)      

*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

 

That's a 1050ti, which is like $30-40 more than the vanilla 1050. It's not that big a difference tho and I still agree with you, the walmart pc is priced around what I'd expect a prebuilt with the specs.

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That's a 1050ti, which is like $30-40 more than the vanilla 1050. It's not that big a difference tho and I still agree with you, the walmart pc is priced around what I'd expect a prebuilt with the specs.

I didn't see a vanilla 1050 2GB on PC partpicker so I just went with the cheapest 1050Ti I saw. Not to mention, laptop 1050's are 4GB and practically the same thing as a 1050Ti

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*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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4 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

A320, disgusting

we're comparing to a prebuilt, which I hope no one's expecting any overclocks on one of them.

 

18 minutes ago, Compassionate Homicide said:

I had to go to wally-world tonight. As usual, I strolled through the electronics department hoping to score a good deal on something.

 

Something caught my eye....A black cased, green lit, pre-built HP "gaming" system for $600. Some of you may have seen a video from a rival Youtube channel about a Walmart "gaming" PC. Well, I'm here to tell you....they are confirmed garbage.

 

First off...it's from HP ('nuff said).

Second...I looked at the side of the box for specs. I read one, and only one, line...the first line of specs - "GTX 1050".

 

I stopped there and walked away. I looked it up once I got home, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Garbage. Hell, I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I have a 1060. And a 3gb at that! Granted, I only care about 1080p.

 

I looked it up when I got home, its a Ryzen 2400G to top things off. I suppose for an "entry level" gaming rig, it's not tooooo bad, but it sure as hell ain't worth $600. The look of it is it's only redeeming feature IMO.

https://goo.gl/3Xz1yX

Walmart Gaming PC is far worse, I can assure you.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

we're comparing to a prebuilt, which I hope no one's expecting any overclocks on one of them.

No one got the joke? I was poking fun at how cheap and bad for OC the A320 boards generally are

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*SLI Rig* - i7-920, MSI-X58 Platinum SLI, 12GB DDR3, Dual EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 in SLI - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHw6vW (Windows 7 Pro)

HP DC7900 - Core 2 Duo E8400, 4GB DDR2, Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT (Windows Vista)

Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

Asus M32AD - Intel i3-4170, 8GB DDR3, 250GB Seagate 2.5" HDD (converting to SSD soon), EVGA GeForce GTS 250, OEM 350W PSU (Windows 10 Core)

*Haswell Tower* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vw6vW (Windows 10 Home)

*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

No one got the joke? I was poking fun at how cheap and bad for OC the A320 boards generally are

no one got the joke because it doesnt make sense? A320 boards can't even OC the CPU, so it is understandably BAD at it :P

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I suppose for a

19 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

It works and its cheap. Nothing really wrong with the chipset. 

I paid $60 for my B450, new, from Microcenter.

 

But I suppose for "mom & dad buying 14yo Jerry" a "gaming" PC, it isn't that bad. There's worse to be had, and probably better, for that kind of money in a pre-built.

 

It's an HP, granted a "well reputed, long time, PC company", but ponder how much of it is proprietary and how bad the QC and cable management is.

 

The Nexus "Walmart Gaming PC: How to Do Everything Wrong" vid I watched was enough. As a 41yo father of 4, if my kid said to me, "Hey dad, I want a cheap gaming rig for Christmas!", I know better than to buy a pre-built from Walmart.

 

Grandparents get a pass on this. But there's no excuse in this day and age for a parent to buy their kid a gaming PC from Walmart of all places.

 

Call me a nit-picky old fart...but that's just me. I'd never buy my kid that turd of a boat anchor, and would much rather buy him/her the parts, wrap each one, and spend a Saturday showing them how to build it.

 

More presents to unwrap + spending time with your kid to build it = priceless

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Now...who has a cheap 1155 board for sale I can OC with? My kids need one. ?

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