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Thunderbolt 2, Mini Displayport, USB 3.1 Gen2? What, I just want a fast SSD damnit....

Hi Guys and Gals,

 

Straight to the point: I'm tired of the sad transfer-speeds between my mac and my PC, and I want to try something new. I have a retired Samsung 950 Pro PCI-E M.2 drive, and would like to put it in one of those M.2 external drive dongles for large-capacity fast external storage. However, I'm being bombarded by all these new serial/other data transfer technicalities and it's driving me crazy...

 

My mac is an early-2013 MacBook pro retina with 2 mini displayport-styled thunderbolt 2 ports.

My PC's motherboard is an MSi X99 board with 2 usb 3.1 Gen2 ports (1 Type-C, 1 Type-A).

 

Question 1: Can the displayport thunderbolt connectors on my mac be used for storage/data transfer from an external drive, or is it a peripheral/video-only transfer bus? I'm pretty sure it can, since I used to use an ethernet-dongle with it. Just making sure.

 

 

Question 2:

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If MSi's official sources say USB 3.0s capable of 5Gbps are now called 3.1 Gen1, and ones capable of 10Gbps,

Then why does AppleInsider state differently?

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AppleInsider seems to lop USB 3.1 together with Thunderbolt 3 @ 40Gbps, yet also gives it its own column @ 10Gbps. This is kinda like saying they are able to inter-communicate... which as far as I've heard, they're different (???) This directly links to the last part of the next (final) question, the sentence that is bold+underlined.

 

 

 

Finally Question: Is there a way for me to achieve thunderbolt-2-like speeds using the same 950Pro SSD on both my Mac and my PC?

Elaborated: are there enclosures such as this,

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that communicate through Thunderbolt 2 instead of SATA, and would I be able to get the same speeds as Thunderbolt 2 on my PC's USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports? Or would I need something like this (Below) to do so?

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Or would USB 3.1 hinder the Thunderbolt-dedicated drive, or even make it non-compatible without a Thunderbolt card?

 

as you can likely tell from the way in which I've asked and structured this question, I am very confused at the moment, and some guidance would be very helpful!

 

Thanks in advance!

PC 0: Pinky 2.0

Ryzen 9 5950x — 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws 5 @3600Mhz CL14-13-13-28-288 — ROG Crosshair 8 Dark Hero — RX 6900 XT — Hardline Loop — Sabrent Rocket 4.0 2TB — Samsung PM961 1TB  WD Blue 4TB HDD — Corsair AX1500i — Thermaltake Core P5 

 

PC 1: Pinky (Yes that is her name) Here's the build

Xeon E5-1680V3 — 64GB G.Skill Ripjaws 4 @2400Mhz — MSi X99A Godlike Gaming — GTX 980Ti SLI (2-WAY) — Hardline Loop — Samsung 950Pro 512GB — Seagate 2TB HDD — Corsair RM1000 — Thermaltake Core P5

 

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Do you need random speeds or sequentical speeds? usb3 is more than enough for a sata 3 ssd random io, and will limit it a bit with sequentical io. 

 

Really usb 3 is simple and works well.

 

The 960 won't work with most external enclosure as those are almost always sata only and thats a pcie drive.

 

You need thunderbolt to use a thunderbolt drive, you cant use thunderbolt device on a usb only type c connector.

 

 

 

Anouther way to copy files quickly is to just use 10gbe on the desktop and a thunderbolt to 10gbe adapter on the laptop

 

TLDR; usb3 is fine, get a sata ssd.

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