FX-8350 AM3+ Processor Review (Phenom II X6 1090T versus FX-8350 Comparisons)

[MellowCream]

i dont like my 8350 wish i went for a intel quadcore like the i5 4670k

Why? You sound like an idiot whwn you say "I hate something, but let's not say why i hate it" Tell people why you don't like it. 

[Suika]

Why? You sound like an idiot whwn you say "I hate something, but let's not say why i hate it" Tell people why you don't like it. 

I don't like it because Skyrim lags in every area asides from the wilds or caves. Team Fortress 2 likes to struggle in Mann versus Machine because the bot count is so absurdly high. Essentially any game that lacks any sort of multithreaded optimization is terrible when paired with the 8350, and you see bottlenecks a lot when you're running a 770 or better. The most powerful GPU I'd probably pair with the FX-8350 is probably the R9 270X. Nothing higher.

[MellowCream]

bottlenecks 

Where are you getting bottlenecks? I've haven't gotten a single bottleneck. The only game that runs poorly is Skyrim. I've never had an issue with TF2.

 

I want screenshots where it's "bottle necking" I've seen a 6300 with a 780 with no bottlenecking. 

[DA COOLEST NOOB]

Nice review

[Sky Daddy]

Have had very little issues with my Fx 8320, but those issues are lack of optimization which is the fault of the developer. 

[-rascal-]

Just an update.

Hopefully I'll be able to get the overclocked CPU frequency results in by tonight for the 1090T....and hopefully get to the point where I can start the FX-8350 runs.

[ManOfDisguise]

Why? You sound like an idiot whwn you say "I hate something, but let's not say why i hate it" Tell people why you don't like it.

The only idiot here is u bcuz i already explained why i dont like it

[btg0002]

be happy you got at least that box for your 8350. My FX-9370 came in a tiny, nondescript black cardboard box that was about the same size as a pack of cigarettes.

[-rascal-]

be happy you got at least that box for your 8350. My FX-9370 came in a tiny, nondescript black cardboard box that was about the same size as a pack of cigarettes.

 

Oh yeah. People weren't happy about that.

 

 

Anyways, all the test results for the Phenom II X6 1090T are complete and up.

 

I wanted to do some test runs with higher speed RAM frequency...then I remembered the "Thuban" architecture only officially supported up to 1333MHz. 1600MHz is considered an overclock, and beyond that it would need to be increased via increasing the Base Clock (aka Core Clock, or the old timers called it, FSB). I may have to stick with 1600MHz across the board, for both the 1090T and FX-8350.

 

I'm curious about the slight decrease in memory read results in AIDA64. Overclocking the CPU, while leaving the CPU-NB at the overclocked speed of 3000MHz, actually dropped the read speed. Write and copy speeds both increased a bit more, though. This decrease was repeatable and consistent. I've checked the BIOS settings, and all the DRAM timings (even the minor ones nobody ever touches), DRAM drive timings, PCIe frequency, etc, were all the same. Any thoughts on this?

 

I'll post some pictures of some of the obtained test results if anybody is interested (i.e. 3D Mark scores, Bioshock benchmark Excel files, Cinebench screen captures, etc).

I will put up some shots of the CPU swap / installation as well....maybe...as some bonus content  .

[Humbug]

Lol I'm not disappointed at all haha...

Don't you think you would have been better off spending more on GPU, and less on CPU?

 

[JoshM]

Don't you think you would have been better off spending more on GPU, and less on CPU?

I got mine for $200 (guy bought the cpu for wrong chipset 780) with the AMD liquid cooler which was missing mounts, got a refund on that which means i got the cpu for like $65...lol pretty sure that cheaper then a FX 8350 and better value then most things in that price range...Also I was on a budget and I'm now saving for a new gpu. But yeah $65 is too much for a cpu ayee? 

 

And whats your build? 

[Humbug]

I got mine for $200 (guy bought the cpu for wrong chipset 780) with the AMD liquid cooler which was missing mounts, got a refund on that which means i got the cpu for like $65...lol pretty sure that cheaper then a FX 8350 and better value then most things in that price range...Also I was on a budget and I'm now saving for a new gpu. But yeah $65 is too much for a cpu ayee? 

 

And whats your build? 

Was just curious, since you got it at a good price it makes sense I agree. Max overclock is also probably better than an fx-8350 since it's better binned. HD7850 is no slouch either. It's faster than a 750ti. If I was you I would hang onto the 7850 at least until 20nm GPUs are flooding the market from Nvidia and AMD. That should be the next quantum leap...

 

My build is

CPU- 3770K (would have settled for a 3570K but I knew I can never upgrade this platform again as socket 1155 was EOL, so I decided to buy the best processor)

RAM- 8GB RAM (2 x 4GB 1866Mhz)

SSD- 256GB Corsair Performance Pro

Case- Corsair C70 Arctic White

HDD- 1TB

GPU- Getting an R9 290 next week

[JoshM]

Was just curious, since you got it at a good price it makes sense I agree. Max overclock is also probably better than an fx-8350 since it's better binned. HD7850 is no slouch either. It's faster than a 750ti. If I was you I would hang onto the 7850 at least until 20nm GPUs are flooding the market from Nvidia and AMD. That should be the next quantum leap...

 

My build is

CPU- 3770K (would have settled for a 3570K but I knew I can never upgrade this platform again as socket 1155 was EOL, so I decided to buy the best processor)

RAM- 8GB RAM (2 x 4GB 1866Mhz)

SSD- 256GB Corsair Performance Pro

Case- Corsair C70 Arctic White

HDD- 1TB

GPU- Getting an R9 290 next week

Yeah 7850 is not bad, looking at some higher ocing and it should be ok. I am looking at getting a 7970/ 280x as they are under $350 maybe a GTX 680/ 770. But the 20nm cards will probably be released before i can buy another card. So possible price drops etc. I wanted to get my whole build strong, then save for a decent gpu, it sounds weird but with year 12, etc i don't game a massive amount so the card will be suffice, might upgrade around June depending on money. 

[Humbug]

Yeah 7850 is not bad, looking at some higher ocing and it should be ok. I am looking at getting a 7970/ 280x as they are under $350 maybe a GTX 680/ 770. But the 20nm cards will probably be released before i can buy another card. So possible price drops etc. I wanted to get my whole build strong, then save for a decent gpu, it sounds weird but with year 12, etc i don't game a massive amount so the card will be suffice, might upgrade around June depending on money. 

Also keep in mind that you have a 520 watt PSU. Which is already powering a hungry FX-9370. So if you wait for the 20nm GPUs, not only will you get much better performance but you will also more confidently be able to fit a high end GPU into your power budget.

[D3MON]

I don't like it because Skyrim lags in every area asides from the wilds or caves. Team Fortress 2 likes to struggle in Mann versus Machine because the bot count is so absurdly high. Essentially any game that lacks any sort of multithreaded optimization is terrible when paired with the 8350, and you see bottlenecks a lot when you're running a 770 or better. The most powerful GPU I'd probably pair with the FX-8350 is probably the R9 270X. Nothing higher.

so its not the cpu that you have a problem with, its just that the games that you like are so badly made that they are wasting gpu power.

maybe you should of got a pentium g3220...and got a mantle capable card.

last time i checked skyrim was evenly threaded/gpu limited but im not a skyrim fan, i left DX9/10 graphics back on vista where they belong.

not being a fanboy I just find it irritating when people don't diagnose a problem correctly, like when someone says "This game sucks and takes forever to load!" when they're using a 5200rpm 2.5in laptop drive..don't blame hardware for lacking software.

[Faa]

Where are you getting bottlenecks? I've haven't gotten a single bottleneck. The only game that runs poorly is Skyrim. I've never had an issue with TF2.

 

I want screenshots where it's "bottle necking" I've seen a 6300 with a 780 with no bottlenecking. 

Bottlenecking seems to be meaning for everyone different these days. A 780 running at 50% giving 140fps on a 6300 is still a cpu bottleneck in my perspective but since people have their eyes on their framerate they wouldn't call it a cpu bottleneck or a pentium 4 bottlenecking a 780 complety is more of an oldschool example of a bottleneck. Not that i've tried a lot of games on the pc, but every game I played except Crysis 3 was cpu bound like WoW, PS2, BL2, BF3, GW2, swtor, bf4 here and there as well and Titanfall would have been cpu bound if they made bigger maps with 64 players wouldn't doubt this.

Also the gpu load is the only indicator of a cpu bottleneck.

[D3MON]

Bottlenecking seems to be meaning for everyone different these days. A 780 running at 50% giving 140fps on a 6300 is still a cpu bottleneck in my perspective but since people have their eyes on their framerate they wouldn't call it a cpu bottleneck or a pentium 4 bottlenecking a 780 complety is more of an oldschool example of a bottleneck. Not that i've tried a lot of games on the pc, but every game I played except Crysis 3 was cpu bound like WoW, PS2, BL2, BF3, GW2, swtor, bf4 here and there as well and Titanfall would have been cpu bound if they made bigger maps with 64 players wouldn't doubt this.

Also the gpu load is the only indicator of a cpu bottleneck.

ive run bf4 at 2ghz without being bottlenecked, it was a hd6670 but will try it again tonight.

I'm pretty sure the frostbite 2 and 3 engines are both evenly threaded, the only games you'll get cpu bound in these days are pos coded mmo's like swtor and wow in which case you'll be limited but still be getting 150fps with a 9600gt..

[Faa]

ive run bf4 at 2ghz without being bottlenecked, it was a hd6670 but will try it again tonight.

I'm pretty sure the frostbite 2 and 3 engines are both evenly threaded, the only games you'll get cpu bound in these days are pos coded mmo's like swtor and wow in which case you'll be limited but still be getting 150fps with a 9600gt..

Yeah but a 6670 is going to be the bottleneck, even if you bump the core clock up not going to make a difference at all.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the frostbite 2 and 3 engines are both evenly threaded

 

And no Frostbite 2 takes only advantage of 4 cores nothing more, have tests pointing this out. BF4 does only take advantage of 6 though.

 

 

 the only games you'll get cpu bound in these days are pos coded mmo's like swtor and wow in which case you'll be limited but still be getting 150fps with a 9600gt..

 

Single player games are mostly gpu bound, multiplayer games especially where you can play with tons of players are cpu limited. BF4 isnt that much cpu limited but I'd like to see 64 people all spamming m320's in a 5m² surface. Crysis 3 multiplayer isnt cpu limited, not surprising me because you can only play with 16 players.

And you can't get 150 fps in wow 25m raids or 40vs40 pvp battlegrounds with a 4770K+15 way gtx 880ti sli. I'm sitting there at 30 frames so I'm wondering why a system with a 9600gt which would probably have a cpu thats outdated as hell can outperform my system by 5 times.

[JoshM]

Also keep in mind that you have a 520 watt PSU. Which is already powering a hungry FX-9370. So if you wait for the 20nm GPUs, not only will you get much better performance but you will also more confidently be able to fit a high end GPU into your power budget.

Mate i know all this, I will be getting a bigger psu.....probably won't be going nvidia cause of there stupid prices (amd is better value in aus)

[Mistgrim]

Part of me really likes the idea of an eight core maybe with a GTX 760 or 770, but the other part knows that the 8350 won't be as good performance wise in certain aspects. But the first part thinks that eight cores will come in handy later on, but on the other hand the higher performance now is so enticing.

 

Like someone else above users on this forum recommended both a 8320 and a 8350, the lower cost is attractive but higher performance tugs at ma soul   

[JoshM]

Part of me really likes the idea of an eight core maybe with a GTX 760 or 770, but the other part knows that the 8350 won't be as good performance wise in certain aspects. But the first part thinks that eight cores will come in handy later on, but on the other hand the higher performance now is so enticing.

 

Like someone else above users on this forum recommended both a 8320 and a 8350, the lower cost is attractive but higher performance tugs at ma soul   

I know my cpu is going to do well later as games are going multi-threaded, (e.g. BF4 and watch dogs, etc)

[-rascal-]

Results for the FX-8350 at stock speeds are up. For those following, sorry, I've been busy with work and personal schedules...

 

What is surprising me quite a bit is the WinRAR compression time. It has shaved off several minutes off the clock compared to the Phenom II X6 1090T - even the overclocked results!

Phenom II X6 1090T at stock checked in at 497 seconds. The FX-8350 came in at just 282!!

[TriBeard]

I had a choice between the 8350 and the asus crosshair v formula-z and an intel 4670k and a much cheaper motherboard (this one was open box for 135, but included all the accessories) and I regret nothing. It's been a pretty good chip thus far, and it's done everything I've wanted and asked for from it.

[-rascal-]

I had a choice between the 8350 and the asus crosshair v formula-z and an intel 4670k and a much cheaper motherboard (this one was open box for 135, but included all the accessories) and I regret nothing. It's been a pretty good chip thus far, and it's done everything I've wanted and asked for from it.

 

I'm enjoying my FX-8350 thus far, so nom complaints.

I am beginning to get into the overclock testing now.

 

From what people are saying on the interwebs, CPU-NB beyond 2600MHz is quite uncommon to obtain. For my particular chip it's chugging along at 2800MHz okay so far - though it won't pass POST (Q LED checker) with 3000MHz.

 

EDIT: Whoops! Spoke too soon. 2800MHz CPU-NB pasted POST, but didn't make it very far in Prime95; one core would stop or system would crash. Plus, the CPU/NB was going up all the way up to 1.38V. I guess I will stick with 2600MHz...for now...

[-rascal-]

Minor Update:

All FX-8350 at stock with CPU-NB overclocked results are up.

Overclocked CPU frequency results will be up shortly - hopefully by the end of this weekend. I am tweaking the CPU now, and running stability tests...