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Micron E-die is OC'ing better than Samsung B-die???

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello,

 

 

I originally had a 2x4gb Ballisitx sport 2666mhz CL16 kit along with my ryzen 5 1600 and b350-f gaming motherboard. I was waiting for ryzen 4000 series but since i managed to sell my ryzen 5 1600 with a nice profit, i snagged a ryzen 5 3600 and bought 2x8gb Vengeance LPX 3000mhz CL15 kit, since i heard zen 2 ryzen was much more compatible with higher Mhz. All well, everything is booting, however, apperntly this memory kit cant do anything above 3000mhz or else my pc wont boot, and i have to clear CMOS.

When i was using my 2x4 2666 Mhz CL16 kit, i managed a OC on 3000Mhz with CL14 - 1.35V, but apperntly i cant touch anything on the 2x8 3000mhz CL15 vengeance kit, because it wont boot. I tried 3200mhz and everything else auto, and i got a CL21 as auto, tried putting it down to 20 just to see, aaaand nope. no boot. I tried 3000mhz with cl14, no boot. I upped the volt all the way to 1.48, still no boot in either configuration, besides 3000mhz CL15 which was the standard XMP profile.

Is there any major reason for this? I thought Samsung B-Die was supose to be "the" OC memory kit every ryzen builders are dreaming of? or did i just get a bad batch? I returned the kit but im still curious as to why it wouldnt go any higher since im interested in pc parts and OC in general, was hoping any memory OC guy out here could enlighten my brain as to what i was doing wrong.

 

thanks.

 

 

Specs:

B350-f gaming strix

Ryzen 5 3600

2x4gb 2666mhz CL16

1070ti

7 fans inc. aio (so it cant be heat issue)

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Who said 3000MHz CL15 will give you good Samsung B-die in the first place? Corsair Vengeance certainly isn't a B-die only model, no models are (heck, not even the supposedly flagship Dominator Platinums). 


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
On 4/8/2020 at 10:35 AM, Jurrunio said:

Who said 3000MHz CL15 will give you good Samsung B-die in the first place? Corsair Vengeance certainly isn't a B-die only model, no models are (heck, not even the supposedly flagship Dominator Platinums). 

 

On 4/8/2020 at 10:44 AM, TrigrH said:

 3000MHz CL15 is NEVER b-die lol.

 

 

Im new to ram oc'ing, but i was told to use thaiphoon burner or something to check information on my chips, since aida64, doesnt tell me much other than manufactor. Thaiphoon told me it was B-die, thats why i was confused, because i was under the impression that 3200mhz CL14 is B-die, and not 3000mhz CL15. Also why i was suprised to begin with, but then it wouldnt OC lol.

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19 minutes ago, k96 said:

Im new to ram oc'ing, but i was told to use thaiphoon burner or something to check information on my chips, since aida64, doesnt tell me much other than manufactor. Thaiphoon told me it was B-die, thats why i was confused, because i was under the impression that 3200mhz CL14 is B-die, and not 3000mhz CL15. Also why i was suprised to begin with, but then it wouldnt OC lol.

Thaiphoon burner is not always correct, and there are Samsung b-die that falls through all that sorting which only happens when they are really bad, i.e. B-die that's only by-name.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Thaiphoon burner is not always correct, and there are Samsung b-die that falls through all that sorting which only happens when they are really bad, i.e. B-die that's only by-name.

ah alright, well i returned them anyways. Was just curious as to why it wouldnt OC. Thanks for the info :)

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