Need help in upgrading PC

[AlCarosse]

My trusty old Z97 MoBo have died, hinting me that I should finally upgrade.

 

As someone who have not updated his knowlage on PC parts since buying one in 2014, I need help deciding on new parts.

I'm not a gamer(anymore), I don't care about gaming performace (Even if I do play, it's either on a handheld or ancient crpgs).

I am an engeneering student, and primary reason why I dont just do everything on laptop, is conviniece of 3 monitors.  I use mostly text editors. Some AutoCad. So far I have used i7-4790k (without oveclocking it) whith 16GB of RAM, and I never felt a need to upgrade.
I really dont care about estetics, I have a closed silent case anyway. I also dont care about overclocking, I just want to buy new parts, shove my pc under the desk and go back to work.

With everything going on, I'm on a tight budget, and pretty price sensetive, But I am willing to pay for a value if I have to.

 

First question -  i5 vs i7 - How big is a value difference between i7-9700k and i5-9600k ? I sea lot of pretty negative reviews of i5, but I don't see why. 6/6 cores seems pretty reasonable, is there something I'm missing ? (i9-9900k is out of the question)

Second question - k vs kf - Is there any difference between k and kf besides lacking of GPU.Considering I do have external GPU, should buy a kf ?

Third question - Z370 vs Z390 - From what I saw, the difference iis USB 3.1 (which is nice to have, but I barely use even ny 3.0) and WiFi (Which I cant stress enough how much I dont care about). From what I have seen, the big difference is that all the fancy versions of MoBos are Z390, but as I need a mobo and no a christmass tree, thats not really a factor. on the other hand,  I do value quality. So should I get a Z370 or Z390 ?

 

Thank you.

 

 

[boggy77]

would you consider a ryzen 5 3600? it's 6 cores/12 threads. single core performance is similar to a 9600k, while multi core performance is similar to a 8700k. it's also much cheaper 

[Tarry Hesticle]

Well you seem kind of set on an Intel build, but since you don't care about gaming 1st or 2nd gen ryzen would definitely be a great value/budget option. Something like a r5 2600 would work great, and you can get a decent b450 mobo for around 80 bucks.

[AlCarosse]

4 hours ago, boggy77 said:

would you consider a ryzen 5 3600? it's 6 cores/12 threads. single core performance is similar to a 9600k, while multi core performance is similar to a 8700k. it's also much cheaper 

 

4 hours ago, Tarry Hesticle said:

Well you seem kind of set on an Intel build, but since you don't care about gaming 1st or 2nd gen ryzen would definitely be a great value/budget option. Something like a r5 2600 would work great, and you can get a decent b450 mobo for around 80 bucks.

No, I think brand loyalty is a stupid concept, and nothing is set in stone. I'm just used to Intel being the default (as I have said, my knowlage is 6 years old).

Thanks guys, I'll look closely into AMD.

[boggy77]

what would be your budget? we can help with  a full build.

[AlCarosse]

34 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

what would be your budget? we can help with  a full build.

Thanks! But I would be difficult, as price in my country are a bit different. Like, 2000$ is a basic gaming PC over here. And not particulary swanky one.

 

But I would be happy to hear your opinion - I'll intent to leave my old:

Case: Fractal Desighn Define R5;

PSU:  ThermalTake Smart SE 730W Gold;

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 (although, I need to check how do I mount it.)

HDD: Samsung 1TB 860 EVO, 4TB WD Black;

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1080 WindForce OC

I dont see any reason to upgrade those parts.

 

As for upgrade,

I'm a bit torn between 3600x and 3700x. It's 2 cores more, but it's 50% more expencive...

MoBo: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE looks nice.

RAM: Corsair Vengeance PRO 32G (2x16G) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 RGB.

Thats 690 USD with 3600X or 815 USD with 3700X (in my country)

 

Are those good choices, or if you can advice something better in that price range I'll gladly listen.

Thank you !

[boggy77]

1 hour ago, AlCarosse said:

Case: Fractal Desighn Define R5;

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 (although, I need to check how do I mount it.)

HDD: Samsung 1TB 860 EVO, 4TB WD Black;

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1080 WindForce OC

I dont see any reason to upgrade those parts.

these are good

 

1 hour ago, AlCarosse said:

PSU:  ThermalTake Smart SE 730W Gold;

I would change this, as it only has 3 years warranty, and it's probably older than 3 years.

 

a 3600 should be enough. no need for the x version, unless it's the same price as the non-x version.

 

the gigabyte and asus b450 boards aren't great, go for a msi b450 tomahawk max/a-pro max/gaming plus max

ram is probably too expensive due to RGB

[AlCarosse]

4 hours ago, boggy77 said:

I would change this, as it only has 3 years warranty, and it's probably older than 3 years.

Oh, yeah, thats... an understatment.

 

In my country the choise is pretty limited.

There are no MSI Tomohawk MoBos. There are almost no MSI board here. The only 2 I cold find IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY are

MSI B450M PRO - VDH V2

MSI B450M BAZOOKA PLUS RGB (But it's... far. And few)

We have pretty much ASUS/Gigabyte duopoly here.

Can you advise something else ?

I can't find 3600 either. It's 3600X only here. But if you say 3600 is sufficient, I'll take the 3600X,

Now I have noticed זכרון - Corsair Vengeance LPX 32G (2x16G) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 Black. LPX is even better with NH-D15

Also, what's your opinion on  Corsair RM550x 550W PSU 80+ Gold Modular ?

[boggy77]

4 hours ago, AlCarosse said:

Corsair RM550x 550W PSU 80+ Gold Modular ?

that's a very good psu.

 

as for motherboard,

asus  B450 TUF Pro, B450-E, B450-I,

asrock B450 Pro4, K4, M/AC, Steel Legend, ITX, 

gigabyte  B450 Aorus Elite (mATX)

 

any of these

[AlCarosse]

19 hours ago, boggy77 said:

that's a very good psu.

 

as for motherboard,

asus  B450 TUF Pro, B450-E, B450-I,

asrock B450 Pro4, K4, M/AC, Steel Legend, ITX, 

gigabyte  B450 Aorus Elite (mATX)

 

any of these

Thanks!

In the and I have bought:

 

AMD Six Core Ryzen 5 3600X 4.4Ghz AM4 BOX
ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32G (2x16G) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 Black
Corsair 650W 80+ GOLD RM650X Modular 5 Years Warranty

 

Thanks for your help !

[boggy77]

48 minutes ago, AlCarosse said:

ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING

not a great choice. I recommended the tuf pro, not tuf gaming

[AlCarosse]

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

not a great choice. I recommended the tuf pro, not tuf gaming

Well, as I have said, choises in my country are limited...