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MSI B450 - no fastboot, any ideas how to improve

uberas

Hi,

Recently I’ve upgraded my integral performance 960GB to Sabrent Rocket 1Tb Pcie3.1 and started to think about lack of fast boot on my motherboard. I’ve messaged MSI directly, and yeah there is no option for it. I’ve installed my windows in UEFI GDP mode, then CSM is disabled, just UEFI in bios - tried secure bot on/off (no difference) and I’m left with around 17-20sec cold boot, which after having two gigabyte boards with AM4 that support ultra fast boot seems a little off. It takes ages, the newest bios update says that it improved boot times, however that didn’t change anything. Tested my drive with crystal disk info and seems to be alright (keep in mind it’s system drive and this test was made shortly after windows installation with few background process) task manager says BIOS time 10 seconds, is that normal?

mobo: MSI b450m pro VDH plus

 

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17 sec till windows screen?

If so do you think it's slow?

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9 minutes ago, Constantin said:

17 sec till windows screen?

If so do you think it's slow?

To the logging screen, then i have to put password in

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I mean.. it was still like 30% quicker with gigabyte (on DRAM-less drive and 3 programs to startup)

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So.. I don't know - I guess?

 

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1 minute ago, uberas said:

To the logging screen, then i have to put password in

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I mean.. it was still like 30% quicker with gigabyte (on DRAM-less drive and 3 programs to startup)

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So.. I don't know - I guess?

 

normal boot.

What do you expect ?

 

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"BIOS Time" is what happens before the OS starts loading, drive performance doesn't count. Yes 10 seconds is standard. 

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3 minutes ago, Constantin said:

normal boot.

What do you expect ?

 

Shave off that few seconds like with gigabyte, anyhow

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

"BIOS Time" is what happens before the OS starts loading, drive performance doesn't count. Yes 10 seconds is standard. 

I think it was real with legacy MBR, now uefi collapse with windows so the BIOS time is the actual time of boot? I'm not sure tho, used to be 3-4 seconds back in a day.

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Just measured again, completely cold boot until logging screen is exactly 22 seconds, which for me is a bit too long

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Whatever...

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10 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Whatever...

What? Normally, they cold boot around 15-17 seconds (talking about phison E12 and toshiba nand) which is 31% or 23% faster than mine. That DOES make a difference..

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