Sabrent Rocket NVME - Any good?

[Anomnomnomaly]

There's a sale on these at the moment, but I'm not familiar with the brand... has any one actually used one before? They even do PCIE4 ones... But a 2TB is down to £187 and the 1TB is down to £82 (PCI-E 4.0 are £127 and £359 respectively so not very competitive on the larger capacity at all)

 

transfer rate is supposed to be around 3400mnps which is pretty decent as my WD Black NMVE gets a similar speed... Would be a nice upgrade from my WDB250GB to a 2TB and allow me to drop one of my 3TB HDD's.

 

[Jurrunio]

back when they use the Phison E12 controller, yes they are good. Some found out they've changed to the Phison E8 controller though which is only capable of half the bandwidth.

[Anomnomnomaly]

According to some of the blurb... it's based on Toshibas 3D TLC

[Spotty]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

back when they use the Phison E12 controller, yes they are good. Some found out they've changed to the Phison E8 controller though which is only capable of half the bandwidth.

I haven't heard of this. Do you have a link?

If that is the case do you know if there are different model numbers to look out for or are they all under the same model?

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

I haven't heard of this. Do you have a link?

If that is the case do you know if they're different model numbers to look out for or are they all under the same model?

Added to OP, thought I had.

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I haven't heard of this. Do you have a link?

If that is the case do you know if there are different model numbers to look out for or are they all under the same model?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RENHI35Z35D0M/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07LGF54XR guy noted that the pcb looks closer to a phison E8 instead of the E12.

[Spotty]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RENHI35Z35D0M/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07LGF54XR guy noted that the pcb looks closer to a phison E8 instead of the E12.

Thanks for that. Very interesting.

That might explain why they've been able to drop the price on the sabrent rocket recently. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Thanks for that. Very interesting.

That might explain why they've been able to drop the price on the sabrent rocket recently. 

there's 6 other companies all with their own Phison E12 drives for cheaper than the rocket 

[Spotty]

23 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

there's 6 other companies all with their own Phison E12 drives for cheaper than the rocket 

You should list the models and prices of the ones you are referring to as that would help @Anomnomnomaly

 

Edit: Looks like the Sabrent Rocket 1TB at 82 pounds and the 2TB at 187 pounds are currently the cheapest 1TB and 2TB NVMe drives.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&A=900000000000,16000000000000&sort=price&f=122080&i=85

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&A=1800000000000,16000000000000&sort=price&f=122080&i=85

 

But regardless, if you do have some other drives you would recommend instead that are similarly priced then you should list them to help OP out.

Edited December 5, 2019 by Spotty

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, Spotty said:

You should list the models and prices of the ones you are referring to as that would help @Anomnomnomaly

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S69GZGS?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 200 pounds

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kQZzK8/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-2tt-c not a phison E12, but it's just as good.

they got tons of competition in the US, but they're still doing pretty well price-wse in the UK.

[Anomnomnomaly]

I'm not as up to date on chipset tech as I used to be, as I no longer work in the tech industry and have fallen behind the times in some areas... So I did a little bit of reading up on the E8-12 controllers.

 

According to the data I've see the E8 should be giving you around 1600mbps, but this has a claimed speed of 3400mbps, which would indicate it is the E12 as E8 is PCI-E 3.0x2 and E12 is PCI-E 3.0x4... and this is marketed as the latter 3.0x4... Only the E7 and E12C have the same rating with E8 and E8T being 3.0x2

 

E8 would also give a theoretical max capacity of 2TB... which is what these max out at.

 

So I'm still no clearer on which one it is and the deal ends tonight...

 

 

I've been going through the amazon reviews too, and there's plenty of conflicting info on the controller.

 

Their website on the other hand states clearly that it's 3x4 and offers capacity up to 4TB, which 3x2 isn't capable off.

[Spotty]

12 minutes ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

So I'm still no clearer on which one it is and the deal ends tonight...

I think if you are only planning on using it as a games drive then it won't matter either way.
 

7 hours ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

Would be a nice upgrade from my WDB250GB to a 2TB and allow me to drop one of my 3TB HDD's.

Would your motherboard allow you to run two NVMe drives at the same time? So you can keep the WD Black 250GB NVMe SSD for your main operating system (saves reinstalling windows) and have the 2TB Rocket as a dedicated games drive?
Keep in mind just because the board has two M.2 slots does not mean that they can both run PCIe SSDs. One slot may be SATA only. You might have to check your motherboard manual. Another thing to keep in mind is occupying both M.2 slots (if your motherboard has two) may disable some SATA ports.

[Anomnomnomaly]

34 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I think if you are only planning on using it as a games drive then it won't matter either way.
 

Would your motherboard allow you to run two NVMe drives at the same time? So you can keep the WD Black 250GB NVMe SSD for your main operating system (saves reinstalling windows) and have the 2TB Rocket as a dedicated games drive?
Keep in mind just because the board has two M.2 slots does not mean that they can both run PCIe SSDs. One slot may be SATA only. You might have to check your motherboard manual. Another thing to keep in mind is occupying both M.2 slots (if your motherboard has two) may disable some SATA ports.

My MB does have 2x M.2 slots, but if you use any M.2 it disables 2 of the sata ports... which wasn't mentioned anywhere in the sales blurb, and I had to dig through the manual to find out after I'd already built the damn thing. So I'm already down 2 SATA ports, and can't afford to lose another 2 by adding a second M.2.. If I'd known about this kind of f*ckery with the board, I never would have bought it in the first place... and given the issues I have with the stupid gigabyte dual bios randomly resetting/reverting to the backup (a known issue that wasn't aware of and gain, would have stopped me buyingt he board) and a complete inability to run the ram @3200mhz but only 3000, otherwise it resets the bios every single time (ram is good, it's been tested/swapped).

 

I already have an issue where I cannot plug in my BDrom because I have 2x 1TB SSD's and 2x 3TB HDD's... My reasoning behind perhaps getting this 2TB one is that I can drop one of the HDD's and finally get my BDrom back without having to shut down the PC every time and swap them over.

 

That would mean the OS is on the NVME as well as some games. I also do some transcoding stuff, so speed could be a factor there.

[Anomnomnomaly]

6 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kQZzK8/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-2tt-c not a phison E12, but it's just as good.

they got tons of competition in the US, but they're still doing pretty well price-wse in the UK.

That listing for the 1TB ADATA, doesn't even actually exist on the ebuyer website for that price... it's more than £30 more expensive... This is why I don't trust PC part picker, it's data is way out of date.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

This is why I don't trust PC part picker, it's data is way out of date.

not really, they just have issues with certain countries and their retailers. 

 

in perticular the UK. its annoying, but usually easy to spot 

[Spotty]

2 hours ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

That listing for the 1TB ADATA, doesn't even actually exist on the ebuyer website for that price... it's more than £30 more expensive... This is why I don't trust PC part picker, it's data is way out of date.

The PCPP link is for the 2TB version, which is on the ebuyer.co.uk website for 190 pounds. https://www.ebuyer.com/920681-adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-m-2-2tb-ssd-asx8200pnp-2tt-c?

The 1TB version shown on PCPP for 124 pounds (cheaper at other stores) is also on the ebuyer.co.uk website for 121 pounds https://www.ebuyer.com/874722-adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-m-2-1tb-ssd-asx8200pnp-1tt-c?

The 1TB is available on box.co.uk for 99 pounds https://www.box.co.uk/ASX8200PNP-1TT-C-Adata-XPG-SX8200-Pro-1TB-M.2-2280-NVMe-P_2444220.html?

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

The PCPP link is for the 2TB version, which is on the ebuyer.co.uk website for 190 pounds. https://www.ebuyer.com/920681-adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-m-2-2tb-ssd-asx8200pnp-2tt-c?

The 1TB version shown on PCPP for 124 pounds (cheaper at other stores) is also on the ebuyer.co.uk website for 121 pounds https://www.ebuyer.com/874722-adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-m-2-1tb-ssd-asx8200pnp-1tt-c?

The 1TB is available on box.co.uk for 99 pounds https://www.box.co.uk/ASX8200PNP-1TT-C-Adata-XPG-SX8200-Pro-1TB-M.2-2280-NVMe-P_2444220.html?

yeah, thats the one I was on about, the 1TB on ebuyer was £121 vs £82, that's closer to £40 more than £30... But it still leaves the question regarding the controller.    E8 or E12.

[Mazeballz]

Just received mine today. Getting expected advertised speeds.

[Anomnomnomaly]

53 minutes ago, Mazeballz said:

Just received mine today. Getting expected advertised speeds.

Where did you order it from? Are you in the UK?

[Mazeballz]

@AnomnomnomalyUS, newegg