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Hyper 212 black or Arctic Freezer 34 Duo??

Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

Well that is true... But will the third party 5700 XTs still be 400$??

Yeah, i mean Obviously theres gonna be "Premium" cards like asus's rog strix series but many aib's sell cards at msrp, as they do with with many other gpu's. I kinda wanna dump a little more cash into something like a strix or sapphire card but thats just me.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am building a new PC and want to overclock the ryzen 5 3600 or the 3600X (Haven't decided yet).

Which of these will perform the best for me?

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

 

Arctic Freezer 34 Esports DUO Edition:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a

 

Thx in advance!

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At that price point, either a Scythe Magen 5, or one of these.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4TCrxr/thermalright-cpu-cooler-machorevb

performs a good bit better. Else, the Arctic 34.


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9 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

ryzen 5 3600 or the 3600X

Just use the included stock cooler? they are pretty fine as is and neither the aftermarket coolers that are within your budget will be much of a step up. AMD unlike Intel actually ships decent coolers.


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Just now, Princess Luna said:

Just use the included stock cooler? they are pretty fine as is and neither the aftermarket coolers that are within your budget will be much of a step up. AMD unlike Intel actually ships decent coolers.

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

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11 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

Is it for gaming? What GPU will you be using and what display settings?


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CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @4.7ghz  |~| Cooling: Noctua NH-U12P |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3200mhz CL16 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: Corsair RM850X 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: WD Black M.2 2280 500GB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: ASUS ROG Swift PG348Q 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk SSD Plus G26 480gb |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display Setup: Acer X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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On 7/9/2019 at 3:39 PM, ZBVirus24 said:

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

Yeah just get the Arctic one. Cryorig makes great coolers, how much is the H7 for you?


Beta!  X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 (!) + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
13 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Yeah just get the Arctic one. Cryorig makes great coolers, how much is the H7 for you?

Its 105$ on amazon without shipping for me...

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14 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Is it for gaming? What GPU will you be using and what display settings?

yes, it is for gaming.

I am using a 5700 (and if I can get a little bit more budget I might buy the 5700XT as my GPU over the ryzen 5 3600X as my CPU).

I am playing on 1080p 75Hz but might upgrade to 144Hz and/or 1440p.

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16 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

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Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
15 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.

That's a good point... I am actually doing that...

Thanks!

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Posted · Original PosterOP
25 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.

Oh wait but the 5700XT isn't really reasonable with the stock version of it isn't it?

(Like If I want to get the 5700 XT I really should wait till mid-august for the 3rd party manufacturers versions).

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13 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Oh wait but the 5700XT isn't really reasonable with the stock version of it isn't it?

(Like If I want to get the 5700 XT I really should wait till mid-august for the 3rd party manufacturers versions).

its kinda loud, if you game with headphones you should be ok.


Beta!  X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 (!) + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

its kinda loud, if you game with headphones you should be ok.

It's like 32-40 degrees C all the time.

It's gonna thermal throttle every 5 mins isn't it?

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Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

It's like 32-40 degrees C all the time.

It's gonna thermal throttle every 5 mins isn't it?

its going to get loud, but not throttle


Beta!  X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 (!) + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

its going to get loud, but not throttle

Are you sure?

Cuz If you are I am taking your word for it.

And thanks for the SERIOUS help btw!!!

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3 hours ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Are you sure?

Cuz If you are I am taking your word for it.

And thanks for the SERIOUS help btw!!!

yeah np.

here are some reviews in case you are worried

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14618/the-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-review

 


Beta!  X570 VRM + Features list (PM me if you want to help) 

 

Will prob be making an X570 "tier" list when that is completed.

Some Custom Loop Questions, please help answer them.

 

PC (Main)

 

CPU: i5-8400 CPU Cooler: Cryorig M9 Plus   Motherboard: Gigabyte B360M DS3H | RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x8 DDR4-2400

 Boot/OS SSD: Inland 480GB SSD | Video Card: RX 570 4GB Strix OC | Case: Fractal Design Meshify C White TG (11/10) PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750

Monitor: Sceptre 24" 1080p 75hz Webcam: Logitech C920s

 

NAS:

Synology DS418J w/ 4x WD Red Pro 6TB RAID 10 (used 7.3/12TB)

 

Phone/Tablet:

iPhone XR 64GB iPad Mini 4 128GB

 

Laptops:

Dell XPS 15 9570 i7-8750H + 1050 ti + 20GB ram (16+4) + 1TB EX920 SSD

 

My old computers:

Athlon XP + 2GB DDR1 (!) + R9600 Pro 256MB Core 2 Quad Q8400 @ 3.4ghz + GTX 275 | i5-3570k @ 4.4ghz + GTX 

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24 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Final question. I promise.

Do you think I should Save the 50$on the GPU and spend more on a better PSU???

Or maybe you have a better PSU for around the same price?

what psu do you have currently?


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CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

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CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, driftz240 said:

what psu do you have currently?

The corsair CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze.

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4 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

The corsair CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze.

If you dont overclock and use a 5700xt and 3600x you should be ok, but i wouldn't overclock anything as a pc with those parts would draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 400-450ish watts. So it'll be fine, but maybe plan on upgrading your psu down the line if you want more power.


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, driftz240 said:

If you dont overclock and use a 5700xt and 3600x you should be ok, but i wouldn't overclock anything as a pc with those parts would draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 400-450ish watts. So it'll be fine, but maybe plan on upgrading your psu down the line if you want more power.

So will the Corsair vengeance 650W 80+ silver certified do it for me??

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Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

So will the Corsair vengeance 650W 80+ silver certified do it for me??

Yeah that'll be fine for a 3600x and 5700xt.

 


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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On 7/9/2019 at 5:09 PM, Firewrath9 said:

its going to get loud, but not throttle

 

On 7/9/2019 at 5:10 PM, ZBVirus24 said:

Are you sure?

Cuz If you are I am taking your word for it.

Heres stress test results from Gamers Nexus. Clock speeds start at 3:30ish and thermal results start at 4:40ish

 

It wont throttle with fan speed up but it'll get damn near close in a longer test, i would just wait tbh


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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