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Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

Well that is true... But will the third party 5700 XTs still be 400$??

Yeah, i mean Obviously theres gonna be "Premium" cards like asus's rog strix series but many aib's sell cards at msrp, as they do with with many other gpu's. I kinda wanna dump a little more cash into something like a strix or sapphire card but thats just me.

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I am building a new PC and want to overclock the ryzen 5 3600 or the 3600X (Haven't decided yet).

Which of these will perform the best for me?

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

 

Arctic Freezer 34 Esports DUO Edition:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a

 

Thx in advance!

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9 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

ryzen 5 3600 or the 3600X

Just use the included stock cooler? they are pretty fine as is and neither the aftermarket coolers that are within your budget will be much of a step up. AMD unlike Intel actually ships decent coolers.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Princess Luna said:

Just use the included stock cooler? they are pretty fine as is and neither the aftermarket coolers that are within your budget will be much of a step up. AMD unlike Intel actually ships decent coolers.

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

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11 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

Is it for gaming? What GPU will you be using and what display settings?

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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On 7/9/2019 at 3:39 PM, ZBVirus24 said:

I was told in another post that the stock cooler doesn't quite do it for the 3600...

Yeah just get the Arctic one. Cryorig makes great coolers, how much is the H7 for you?

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13 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Yeah just get the Arctic one. Cryorig makes great coolers, how much is the H7 for you?

Its 105$ on amazon without shipping for me...

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14 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Is it for gaming? What GPU will you be using and what display settings?

yes, it is for gaming.

I am using a 5700 (and if I can get a little bit more budget I might buy the 5700XT as my GPU over the ryzen 5 3600X as my CPU).

I am playing on 1080p 75Hz but might upgrade to 144Hz and/or 1440p.

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16 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

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Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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15 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.

That's a good point... I am actually doing that...

Thanks!

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25 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Well you could just use the stock cooler if you want a way to afford the 5700 XT now, you see for 75hz/75fps you won't be CPU limited at 95% of all games there is, so you really don't have a hurry to overclock it.

Oh wait but the 5700XT isn't really reasonable with the stock version of it isn't it?

(Like If I want to get the 5700 XT I really should wait till mid-august for the 3rd party manufacturers versions).

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13 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Oh wait but the 5700XT isn't really reasonable with the stock version of it isn't it?

(Like If I want to get the 5700 XT I really should wait till mid-august for the 3rd party manufacturers versions).

its kinda loud, if you game with headphones you should be ok.

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

its kinda loud, if you game with headphones you should be ok.

It's like 32-40 degrees C all the time.

It's gonna thermal throttle every 5 mins isn't it?

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Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

It's like 32-40 degrees C all the time.

It's gonna thermal throttle every 5 mins isn't it?

its going to get loud, but not throttle

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1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

its going to get loud, but not throttle

Are you sure?

Cuz If you are I am taking your word for it.

And thanks for the SERIOUS help btw!!!

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On 7/10/2019 at 4:18 AM, Firewrath9 said:

yeah np.

here are some reviews in case you are worried

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14618/the-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-review

 

Final question. I promise.

Do you think I should Save the 50$on the GPU and spend more on a better PSU???

Or maybe you have a better PSU for around the same price?

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24 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

Final question. I promise.

Do you think I should Save the 50$on the GPU and spend more on a better PSU???

Or maybe you have a better PSU for around the same price?

what psu do you have currently?

Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x  Cooler: Wraith Prism    RAM: 32gb G.Skill Tridentz RGB 3200mhz     Mobo: Asrock X570 Taichi

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

HTPC/VR Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: 16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 4ghz OC     Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition    RAM: 8gb Corsair Vengence LPX 2400mhz     Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 MATX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Inwin 301 White/Blue     PSU: Evga 450BR    

Storage: 240gb Crucial BX500, 1TB Seagate Barracuda

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Just now, driftz240 said:

what psu do you have currently?

The corsair CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze.

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4 minutes ago, ZBVirus24 said:

The corsair CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze.

If you dont overclock and use a 5700xt and 3600x you should be ok, but i wouldn't overclock anything as a pc with those parts would draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 400-450ish watts. So it'll be fine, but maybe plan on upgrading your psu down the line if you want more power.

Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x  Cooler: Wraith Prism    RAM: 32gb G.Skill Tridentz RGB 3200mhz     Mobo: Asrock X570 Taichi

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

HTPC/VR Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: 16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 4ghz OC     Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition    RAM: 8gb Corsair Vengence LPX 2400mhz     Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 MATX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Inwin 301 White/Blue     PSU: Evga 450BR    

Storage: 240gb Crucial BX500, 1TB Seagate Barracuda

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1 minute ago, driftz240 said:

If you dont overclock and use a 5700xt and 3600x you should be ok, but i wouldn't overclock anything as a pc with those parts would draw somewhere in the neighborhood of 400-450ish watts. So it'll be fine, but maybe plan on upgrading your psu down the line if you want more power.

So will the Corsair vengeance 650W 80+ silver certified do it for me??

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Just now, ZBVirus24 said:

So will the Corsair vengeance 650W 80+ silver certified do it for me??

Yeah that'll be fine for a 3600x and 5700xt.

 

Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x  Cooler: Wraith Prism    RAM: 32gb G.Skill Tridentz RGB 3200mhz     Mobo: Asrock X570 Taichi

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

HTPC/VR Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: 16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 4ghz OC     Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition    RAM: 8gb Corsair Vengence LPX 2400mhz     Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 MATX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Inwin 301 White/Blue     PSU: Evga 450BR    

Storage: 240gb Crucial BX500, 1TB Seagate Barracuda

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Just now, driftz240 said:

Yeah that'll be fine for a 3600x and 5700xt.

 

k THX!

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On 7/9/2019 at 5:09 PM, Firewrath9 said:

its going to get loud, but not throttle

 

On 7/9/2019 at 5:10 PM, ZBVirus24 said:

Are you sure?

Cuz If you are I am taking your word for it.

Heres stress test results from Gamers Nexus. Clock speeds start at 3:30ish and thermal results start at 4:40ish

 

It wont throttle with fan speed up but it'll get damn near close in a longer test, i would just wait tbh

Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x  Cooler: Wraith Prism    RAM: 32gb G.Skill Tridentz RGB 3200mhz     Mobo: Asrock X570 Taichi

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

HTPC/VR Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: 16gb Crucial Ballistix Sport 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 @ 4ghz OC     Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition    RAM: 8gb Corsair Vengence LPX 2400mhz     Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 MATX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Inwin 301 White/Blue     PSU: Evga 450BR    

Storage: 240gb Crucial BX500, 1TB Seagate Barracuda

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