JoeDaCabbie

At the moment, I am kind of unsure on how much this SSD will matter or not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/ggy26f/next_gen_visuals_and_the_ssd/
This Reddit thread went into a bit of detail, telling us what could be an advantage with this much data throughput, but we have yet to see if the GPU and CPU can keep up with this throughput of memory.
 
Although it does bring up something that has been extensively discussed in the past (in the programming world): data (storage) vs computing (power).
Just take this for example: a system can store all multiplication tables for 1 - 9 (1x1, 1x2,.. 2x1, 2x2.. etc.) or it could just calculate this stuff on the fly. One takes up more data (because it has to store it all in memory), while the other means the system has to take a sec to calculate it all.
 
What is better?
Of course it will depend on the scenario, but I think we will see a big increase in game size, just because (on the PS5), the devs can leverage opening up a whole bunch of files on the system. And they know they can, because everyone who has a PS5, has this drive. Does that also mean Sony won't be a - conventionally - strong videocard/CPU in the system?
That is what I am uncertain about.
 
Plus what Tim Sweeney says does make a good point. While a dev on the PS5, makes a game for the PS5; only one machine. A PC dev makes the game for 'PC'. Some users are running storage as fast (or in the future faster) than the PS5; but the majority is still using 'normal' SATA SSD's or even an HDD. They can't (for certain) leverage the path of "Just load in more data".
Does that mean they will code another 'path' for the game in, that will leverage CPU/GPU power, or will they not bother?
 
I think raw CPU/GPU and even storage power is not going to be an issue. A year or two after the launch, we will already have PC's faster than the PS5.
But will everyone have that level of power? No.
Will everyone have that level of power on a PS5? Yes. 
That just makes it so the game devs could possibly take 'shortcuts' to leverage more from the PS5's CPU/GPU power.
 
TL;DR: all PS5 have fast storage, only some PC's do. Will they be able to use that speed for good performance/better performance than a PC? Find out on the next episode of DragonBall Z! We shall find it once the PS5 launches.

Sorry to heat that, I hope it all works out for you.
 
I somehow missed the 5 November end date to the contest and I need my rigs for the Extra Life Game Day event tomorrow, so I have to shut down folding tonight and bow out. I'll keep the extra RTX 2060 card I bought folding full time for the team, though.

He's growing... 'Tomatoes' inside. 

Does my brain qualify from lack of sanity and sleep?

I think this may be my last day of full folding ☹️ It's just too expensive for me to carry on. My usual electricity bill is about £470p/m but this month's bill has just come in and it hurts. £617.82! ? I would love to carry on but I can't afford to. The old hardware is just inefficient and I'm trying to save up for a new graphics card in the first place...

I have to say, well done to everyone who has contributed! The team and the community here have truly thrown everything they have at the competition and research to the betterment of human kind.

Sorry to heat that, I hope it all works out for you.
 
I somehow missed the 5 November end date to the contest and I need my rigs for the Extra Life Game Day event tomorrow, so I have to shut down folding tonight and bow out. I'll keep the extra RTX 2060 card I bought folding full time for the team, though.

Sorry to heat that, I hope it all works out for you.
 
I somehow missed the 5 November end date to the contest and I need my rigs for the Extra Life Game Day event tomorrow, so I have to shut down folding tonight and bow out. I'll keep the extra RTX 2060 card I bought folding full time for the team, though.

Sorry to heat that, I hope it all works out for you.
 
I somehow missed the 5 November end date to the contest and I need my rigs for the Extra Life Game Day event tomorrow, so I have to shut down folding tonight and bow out. I'll keep the extra RTX 2060 card I bought folding full time for the team, though.

I think that's how floating point math used to work.

2+2=5
 
For extremely large values of 2.

"The new math" is strong with this one.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

According to the Extremeoverclocking site, if I'm reading it correctly, less than 1,000,000 people have ever signed up to fold, and most of them aren't doing it anymore it seems. Think of how many machines there are in the world that are just sitting idle, whether through being ignorant of distributed computing or just apathy. Yet, here you are throwing your gear, even if it isn't super top notch, into the fray. You are making a difference, my friend, in a big way; you and all of the others who can't rack up 1M ppd can still gang up and make a big difference with the Fold of 1,000 Cuts. Everyone who has done something is a winner, in my book.

You're part of the (mostly) Silent Majority.
 
There are:
  42 team members producing between 2 and 21 Million PPD
  88 team members producing between 1 and 2 Million PPD
118 team members producing between 500,000 and 999,999 PPD
137 team members producing between 250,000 and 499,999 PPD
160 team members producing between 100,000 and 249,999 PPD
136 team members producing between   50,000 and   99,999 PPD
219 team members producing between   15,000 and   49,999 PPD
1062 team members producing between 1 and 14,999 PPD
 
Your likely folding on just your CPU which is important as though the GPU folding gets a lot of attention CPU Folding is necessary for some projects as only a CPU can do the complex calculations required by these projects.
 
While it is fun to measure your progress make it a fair comparison and instead look how you are progressing up the ranks.
 
Contributing what you can over a long period can lead to significant gains. This is the beauty of Distributed Computing. Everyone contributes what they can and collectively we help to do amazing things.

Every bit helps! it so worth it, don't give up

you probably overloaded the thing with all your hardware ?

I once saw a post in the Hardware section on Foldingform.org where Folding Legend Ed Olkkala described his systems.
 
He was using 4U server rack-mount chassis with HEDT boards (and Asrock Formula x299) with 3 cards in each and still had to mod the cases adding 120mm fans to the sides to get the heat out so a mesh top might help.
 
A case like the CooMaster HAF-X EVO might also work but I doubt you'd get more than 3 cards in it and even then it would be a tight fit. Your going to have to use either water-cooling or PCIe risers to space the cards out. How about foregoing the case and using an open frame mining rig?
 
Do the math and compare building 1 HEDT system with 4 cards compared to 2 mainstream systems with 2 cards each. You might be surprised. If you willing to play with sketchy Chinese HEDT motherboards and used Xeons from eBay they might be an option but you are right in that getting rid of waste heat is the crux of the issue and with air-cooled cards it is challenging with at best 1-slot of space and with the newer 2.75 slot-width cards these days.
 
I've recently invested in Hybrid cards with an AIO as they were to be found at not too much of a premium over the dual fan variants and placing one in each dual-card system has also significantly lowered the temps on the second dual-fan card.
 
Mainboard. In the mainstream x(3|4|5)70 or z370/390 you will want to look for systems advertised as "SLI-capable" as these will have the PCIe switches to split the 16 CPU PCIe lanes to two x8s. For x299/x399 you have more options due to the many more lanes in HEDT but event with EATX and larger form-factors slot placement and spacing has to be checked carefully.
 
CPU: Yes, the points you can get from CPU folding are insignificant compared to GPUs but there are still lots of projects that cant utilize CPUs and though I initially was using Pentium Gold or AMD Ryzen 3 1200 CPUs I've since switched to 2700(x) and use the spare CPU threads for BOINC.
 
Memory. FaH will run just fine on a single stick of DDR4-2400. BOINC, however, you'll want 8GB but again DDR4-2400 would be fine.
 
PCIe slots. Conventional wisdom is a minimum of 4-lanes of PCIe3 per higher end CPU on Linux and 8 for Windows-based systems due to Windows driver architecture and PCI Bus contention issues. Having said that I am running a GTX 1060 6GB in the PCIe2 x4 ChipSet slot of a Aorus b450M under Linux for the competition and see no discernible loss of performance but YMMV.

Free? Sign me up ?‍♂️

Totally agree lol
 
meanwhile i'll just cry in my corner