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  1. Soag

    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    I decided I'm going with the 'good now' approach. The rig I'll go with will most likely suffice for at least a couple years. And then I can always upgrade what's needed and use remaining parts as a base to build rig for my son who will be 12 in 3,5 years and at that time will most likely want to play something with his friends (I'm strict in these regards, so no PC for him now). This is what I configured: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Soag/saved/dJJp8d The thing that still gives me a lot of headache is case itself. I'm still thinking if going AIO wouldn't be a better solution hence other cases come to mind as well. Plus they might be cheaper and won't need as much space to fit this HUGE Dark Rock Pro 4. I've been mostly looking at the SilverStone RL06 and Thermaltake Core V21 and X31. Any suggestions and remarks? To the whole thing, obviously ;).
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    Yeah, but then the MOBO price comes to the equation again. Equation I seem not to be able to solve on my own atm. Perf difference is not that high, that's true, but personally it's enough to make me lean to 9700k in place of 3700x. Funny thing is I can't tell what's the deal with 3800x... Not my cup of tea, I guess, since price difference between 3600 and 3700x is similar to diff between 3700x vs 9700k so it wouldn't feel wrong to me to go with the new one. All in all, there are 2 factors that influence my decision the most. MOBO price difference and future socket support. Prior is an unknown factor to me and the latter seems to support the AMD idea. Any data regarding future Intel processor sockets? Will they use 1151 or will it become obsolete with new chips?
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    Funny thing is, now that I look at the prices again, that if I'd go with Intel I could add a bit of buck and take 9900k over 9700k but in case of AMD that's a big no-no as 3700x even outperforms 3900x in gaming at times and price gap is way too huge (twice what's between 9700k and 9900k).
  4. Soag

    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    OK, I opted to wait with my purchases until Zen 2 is out. Now it is so it's about time to dig out this subject. Updates: I do have an MSI GTX 1080Ti Gaming X (no, not the trio one). Apart from that everything else is on the shopping list. When it comes down to Intel i7 processors the 9700k just grew on me and it being soldered and 8700k not seems to be a deciding factor. I've long waited for Zen 2 to make a final decision and would most likely go with 3700x from that line but there are few 'buts' in here. 1) Since it's supposed to be gaming only rig (not counting browsing and watching media as its performance needs are low) the Intel one still pulls ahead even in 1440p and from my perspective that's the main factor 2) If I'd go with AMD one I'd most likely buy a solid cooler/AIO over the Wraith Prism anyway, as its performance doesn't seem to be enough if any OC is brought to the table, so that small addition when making a purchase is rendered irrelevant 3) If AMD is the choice here, then at this point x570 has to be as well. Due to its prices I wonder if Ryzen is still the choice here. I think, all in all, it boils down to MOBO prices. Bear in mind I do plan on OC'ing so on both fronts MOBO needs to be strong enough to handle the stress. As I'm not knowledgable in that area please advise: which MOBO for both of those would suffice? I could look up local prices for those and make a decision to push through with the whole buying/building part. On the 'growing' part I also decided to be willing to abandon the 5,25" bay cases and opt for a better airflow + external optical drive when needed. Thanks for any thoughts and advices.
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention in regards to the case is I want one in which optical drive installation is possible. Not only fans on the front. From the top of the tier list in here only Phanteks Enthoo Pro M seems to be meeting that requirement (and doesn't look flashy, which is nice).
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    I did find relatively cheap MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti X 11GB one (for their price) on an auction which comes from disassembling PC sold on parts. Story says a client wanted the full set but didn't pick it up so the whole thing goes out in parts sold cheaper. Comparing that to brand new, packed 2080's that would save me roughly between 150 and 250 USD. Which then leads me to believe going for 2080 might be a better long term investment...
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    I just investigated the GPU case a little bit and think I know what you might have meant. Seems it's real hard to buy a freash 1080Ti - not only the particular model listed. Dang it. You guys know some tricks/have advice in that regard?
  8. Soag

    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    Nah, I don't. Those are just the components of choice. As for CPU I prefer to stick with Intel and don't think I need to go down the i9 route. IMO i7 8700k will be plenty enough and 9700k - in several tests I checked - proved to be really similar if not even slightly worse at times. In case of GPU similar thing seems to happen when comparing 1080Ti with regular 2080 (apart from ray tracing stuff, which I'm not really interested in) and is way cheaper than 2080Ti. But if you know something I don't or would have strong arguments to go a different route please bring that to my attention. Additionally, I'd like to already thank everyone who spent their time posting here trying to help me out.
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    Case colour? Irrelevant. No lights/LEDs etc. at all if possible. Side window: yes - as I could easily glipse over it without opening to see if any dust accumulated inside. As for the size: ATX has more room inside, so provides better cooling potential and flexibility when it comes to hardware changes. Preferably with some "legs" if bottom fan would be needed but producers most likely take that into account when designing those. In general I'm planning to build it and make it as maintenance-free as possible. May it rest there and do its job. If market, requirements or any similar factors change I'd prefer to: Overclock it a bit to meet those, Add something inside for the same purpose (eg. 2nd GPU into SLI), Switch some components for newer ones. All in that order. So if I can plan it ahead and make sure to be able to follow those guidelines in the future then ideally I'd buy stuff which can support the idea right now and don't bother with it later.
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    @ActuallyMediocreOC Amount or frequency? Wrote about it in the notes section and Luke already touched the subject but what would be your recommendation? In case of, well, case - 5th point in notes describes the situation.
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    8700k 1080Ti build advice

    @LukeSavenije Read your tips loud and clear As for the sound card - you suggest to use a motherboard integrated one (if there's one nowadays anyway)? If yes, will that be good enough? I might want to attach some solid speakers to it if I feel like filling the whole house with some music :D. But tbh that's not really needed, so yeah. As for the guide - understand you mean the recommendations meagethread one - it's VERY helpful. @Beer_Nontitju You mean the Aorus AD27QD? No G-Sync and dunno how will it synchronize on FreeSync (at this point am tired of following compatibility lists...) And in HERE they offer a "free" Predator Cestus 500 as well. Not that I need it anyways with my Bloody V7, LOL. Ah, one thing I forgot to mention in the initial post. No case fans were picked as it seems dumb to me if no case is chosen first. I may be wrong, though.
  12. Hi, I'm planning to finally build myself a real solid machine. Main usage: AAA gaming and watching shows in high quality. Been reading a lot of articles and viewing guides recently but consider myself an amateur and would like to ask you for help/advice. PC Part Picker list HERE, pasted one below and a few additional notes at the end. CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Case: None picked Power Supply: be quiet! - Dark Power Pro 11 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 7 Professional Full 32/64-bit Sound Card: Creative Labs - Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96 kHz Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz NEW BUILD: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Soag/saved/dJJp8d Notes: Pretty much anything (apart from CPU and GPU) can be changed, I don't plan to buy everything altogether but most likely will spend an equivalent of ~500$ for parts a month (except for a monitor which is a 1st buy), Performance over looks, I do know 32GB of RAM might be too much but some bottleneck calculator suggested that so for now I went with it (might buy just one stick and one another - if needed - after the build is fully complete), I've seen the case tier list but please suggest something if you can bearing in mind I'm not a fan of lights/glow etc (same applies to RAM), I don't store a lot of data hence the disk space but a fast one instead, Read/calculated 650W of supply will be enough. If not please advise. No idea about the sound card whatsoever - picked a brand known to me from way back. And finally: thank you for reading thus far and for any critique you might bring to the table. Literally any ;).
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