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So I went with the Gaming 5 along with the 1700 and 3000mhz Vengeance memory (remind me to hate import taxes and laws with a passion) also threw in a Define S for sweet cable management and looks. I'll update this thread with my lottery winnings once I get the parts and a chance to mess about with them. Thank you all for your help/info

Cant wait to hear results from you, i would have picked (and will depending on the next months) for the Asus hero 6 tho. Comes pricey tho i agree!
 
Have fun

Bill Roberson/Digital Trends
AMD’s angle when promoting its new Ryzen desktop processors involves showing customers how much performance customers will see for the price. The company talked for months about how its fastest, eight-core chip barely outperformed a similar chip produced by Intel, but for half the cost. Now just over three months after Ryzen’s arrival, that performance/price ratio just got better thanks to a price reduction of the three high-end Ryzen 7 desktop processors from AMD.
Here they are via Newegg:
  Ryzen 7 1800X Ryzen 7 1700X Ryzen 7 1700 New price: $450 $350 $315 Previous price: $500 $400 $330 Architecture: Zen Zen Zen Cores: 8 8 8 Threads: 16 16 16 Total L1 cache: 768KB 768KB 768KB Total L2 cache: 4MB 4MB 4MB Total L3 cache: 16MB 16MB 16MB Base speed: 3.6GHz 3.4GHz 3.0GHz Boost speed: 4.0GHz 3.8GHz 3.7GHz Power usage: 95 watts 95 watts 65 watts

Or thats what they say but i found one at newegg around 300,-  : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113428&Tpk=19-113-428

This is awesome marketing! 

im so glad im putting off my upgrade.

Dont worry.
Intel and AMD are dropping nuke for PC enthusiasts

The claim AMD are dropping pricing has been circulating for about a day now, but I've yet to see anywhere that it is from AMD themselves. Absent that evidence, it is more likely this is simply Ryzen supply reaching or passing adequacy, and pricing wars between vendors will start to drive pricing down. 

The R5 1600 was a defective die which had cores disabled, this means the power drawn in isolated to a smaller area. It also likely has higher resistance due to defects causing elevated temperatures.
The R7 1700 is a non-defective die and the power drawn on the CPU is spread across the entire die, making heat dissipation easier resulting in reduced temperatures.
These theories are BS, but it doesn't really matter, either way both CPU's temperatures are well within safe limits.
 
The thermistors used in CPUs are not accurate or calibrated, the values are really only useful for relative within-CPU comparisons at different loads, not comparing one CPU to another.

I have complain
It doesnt have enough cores  I had to get VM server so I balanced everything 

1 TB drive loves you a lot. I will have to put more drives cause it will be almost full. All of the data is from 2008 to today.

https://www.techpowerup.com/233966/amd-trims-prices-of-the-ryzen-7-1700-and-1700x
 
Good stuff. A $50 price cut for the 1700X makes it a really good competitor to the 7700K (price wise) and the 1700 is now $10 cheaper as well. Not much, but still nice. Lowers the barrier to 8-core goodness just a bit more. Now with the top-dog 1800X at $469 AMD has a really solid line-up, though the 1800X could still be cheaper to better fit in with the other two.

Oh this is gonna be good!!!! 

Wait a sec, that's a BGA package for it? That's adorably small, I want one for a keychain.

I think they had more than enough for Ryzen BIOS to be polished. Only if AMD didnt send Ryzen and chipset architecture like 1-6 months ago before Ryzen release and I still think they've had enough time to encounter problems and fix them

Bill Roberson/Digital Trends
AMD’s angle when promoting its new Ryzen desktop processors involves showing customers how much performance customers will see for the price. The company talked for months about how its fastest, eight-core chip barely outperformed a similar chip produced by Intel, but for half the cost. Now just over three months after Ryzen’s arrival, that performance/price ratio just got better thanks to a price reduction of the three high-end Ryzen 7 desktop processors from AMD.
Here they are via Newegg:
  Ryzen 7 1800X Ryzen 7 1700X Ryzen 7 1700 New price: $450 $350 $315 Previous price: $500 $400 $330 Architecture: Zen Zen Zen Cores: 8 8 8 Threads: 16 16 16 Total L1 cache: 768KB 768KB 768KB Total L2 cache: 4MB 4MB 4MB Total L3 cache: 16MB 16MB 16MB Base speed: 3.6GHz 3.4GHz 3.0GHz Boost speed: 4.0GHz 3.8GHz 3.7GHz Power usage: 95 watts 95 watts 65 watts

Or thats what they say but i found one at newegg around 300,-  : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113428&Tpk=19-113-428

This is awesome marketing! 

Component Selection Base Price Promo Shipping Tax Price     CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor €215.55   €7.99   €223.54   Buy Motherboard Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard €104.85   €7.99   €112.84   Buy Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €162.45   €7.99   €170.44   Buy Storage Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive €92.25   €7.99   €100.24   Buy   Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive €67.85   €7.99   €75.84   Buy Video Card Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card €245.15   €7.99   €253.14   Buy Total (6 / 6 Items): €936.04 https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rwysr7

Obviously we don't know the whole story, so I'll just offer unofficial and generic commentary on a few points:
 
I'm not familiar with the letter of these laws, but if I were you I would check them to see what they say the actual time frame has to be, since I assume there is one, and I highly doubt it's 24 hours.  If you demand a certain time frame that isn't backed by the law you're citing it really takes all the power out of your request.  My guess is it's at least a week if not longer, and regardless, I would advise you be ready to wait that.
 
They can be a real problem, simply by nature of existing, even if they're not on the forum, since it makes it nearly impossible sometimes to tell the difference between a troll and someone who's just genuinely clueless and horribly misinformed.

quite lacking in which way?
 
 
 
mobos contribute to OC stability, and bad mobo wiring can lead to bad audio. From what I can tell they don't necessarily add towards peformance, but can lack in your ability to fully utilize your other hardware. It's kinda like saying just buy what ever PSU cuz they all provide power, better components and other things can lead to better performance, I'm just not fully immersed in MOBO's and hoping to get some feedback.
 
 
asus prime b350's are only 4 phase, not sure on the x370 varient tho. the one's i'm interested in are 4x2+2 or 6 phase boards, and in the $140 or less price range...

This video explains why R5 > i5
 
 
Please do not mislead people.
 
EDIT: It is not the title of the video but the reasoning is explained well in the video. Also a 1600 costs $30 less than a 7600k and doesn't require a cooler so in total its $60 cheaper and will last longer into the future.

R5 stil has less performance, however this is only in numbers i discovered 5-8fps avg difference compared to a better low fps on 1080p is amazing. That and cpu wise r5 outperforms 7600k all day, with higher ram even better. On 1440p gpu bound ryzens blow away everything. So yes and no, the ST performance still acts better, but it simply cant beat r5 even at higher clock rates. So im sorry but also glad that i asked you for proof, tho i obv dig too and allreay checked out very cool bechmarks of r5 ! Amazing chip. Thanks for your vid, tho i dont like TH or trust them that much in the first place.
 
Where do i mislead people? Hmm