5820k vs 4790k

[Wayne Tai]

Hey forumers, 

 

I'm going to build a new system around the 5820 k and one final question that I have is how the 5820k compare against the 4790k in gaming performance. Will I be enjoying any noticeable fps benefit or smoother gameplay with the 5820k from any games? I don't mean an apple to apple comparison though. What I want to compare is 5820 K, DDR 4, X99 platform vs the 4790K, DDR 3 and X79 platform. 

 

Thank you all in advance.. you guys are awesome 

[Interfectorem]

For gaming, there's going to be a negligible performance increase over the 4790K, if at all.

[Flight1sim]

If its anything like the 4820K vs the 4790k, then the 4790K is the way to go. X99 is too expensive at this point, and  feel it isnt really worth it

And the 5820K isnt that much more powerful in gaming than the 4790K

[Aniallation]

Will I be enjoying any noticeable fps benefit or smoother gameplay with the 5820k from any games? 

No. You will barely even notice a difference between the i7 4790K and the i5 4690K. Don't waste money on X99 for gaming.

[runit3]

Short answer: They will perform equally in games. You're not going to be gaining any gaming performance by going X99, it's a waste of money.

[Sintezza]

4790k is even better in most games, because of its higher clockspeed.

The only game that i can think of that could benefit from 5820k, is watch dogs.

 

X99 is basicly a f..... waste of money for gaming.

[Wayne Tai]

4790k is even better in most games, because of its higher clockspeed.

The only game that i can think of that could benefit from 5820k, is watch dogs.

 

X99 is basicly a f..... waste of money for gaming.

 

That's quite sad to hear. I'm still quite inclined to go with the X-99 platform because it can take advantage of the faster DDR 4 memory (it is newer too). It seems to me like it is a bad time now to get the 4790 k because I don't know when the broadwell 5790 k will be out. Sigh I'm quite tired of this waiting game to be honest but I have a disease of wanting the newest toys in the market. I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

[runit3]

That's quite sad to hear. I'm still quite inclined to go with the X-99 platform because it can take advantage of the faster DDR 4 memory (it is newer too). It seems to me like it is a bad time now to get the 4790 k because I don't know when the broadwell 5790 k will be out. Sigh I'm quite tired of this waiting game to be honest but I have a disease of wanting the newest toys in the market. I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

None of the options you listed are bad. The problem is you have one use and one use only -gaming-.

 

X99 is not intended for only gaming, it's meant for higher workloads (encoding, rendering, Tri/Quad SLI/Xfire, and any highly threaded task) It's the Swiss Army knife of computing. You simply don't need 75% of what X99 has to offer if all you're going to be doing is gaming.

Ergo;

X99 is basicly a f..... waste of money for gaming.

[D3MON]

That's quite sad to hear. I'm still quite inclined to go with the X-99 platform because it can take advantage of the faster DDR 4 memory (it is newer too). It seems to me like it is a bad time now to get the 4790 k because I don't know when the broadwell 5790 k will be out. Sigh I'm quite tired of this waiting game to be honest but I have a disease of wanting the newest toys in the market. I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

both are the same architecture (i cant remember) so they'll overclock pretty much the same and perform the same, ddr4 wont provide many improvements just as ddr3 didnt and isn't a great idea right now purely because of ddr4 costs,

that said once prices drop id consider 5820k because while gaming will be the same having 50% more cpu power for only 11% more money (cpu only, £270 vs £300) will mean less need to upgrade and you could have a game run on 3 cores 6 threads and have wan show on another monitor running on another core (2 threads) and still have the equivilant of an i3 spare...

so long as your willing to thread assign with task manager or course.

its what i do with my fx, i can run a game on half my cpu which is equivilant to a phenom and still have the other half spare for other tasks.

its just a higher ceiling.

question is do you really want it right now or are you willing to wait.....6? months for ddr4 ram prices to start dropping because at the moment for ddr3 2400 4x4gb kit you're looking around £150-160, for that same speed and amount of ddr4 you're looking at  about £240 (60%? more)

[anon3na]

That's quite sad to hear. I'm still quite inclined to go with the X-99 platform because it can take advantage of the faster DDR 4 memory (it is newer too). It seems to me like it is a bad time now to get the 4790 k because I don't know when the broadwell 5790 k will be out. Sigh I'm quite tired of this waiting game to be honest but I have a disease of wanting the newest toys in the market. I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

Usually going with the latest "ddr" technology has been disastrous in the past with numerous bugs and issues, although ddr4 seems relatively ok so far

Regardless, the ram is MASSIVELY overpriced, and it would be better to wait for the technology to mature... If you wish to build a gaming system now, stick to z97 and buy only 8gb of ddr3 right now, as it is fairly cheap, and make a larger investment in ram when skylake comes around... It is not worth getting ddr4 for gaming at all right now imo

[Sintezza]

both are the same architecture (i cant remember) so they'll overclock pretty much the same and perform the same, ddr4 wont provide many improvements just as ddr3 didnt and isn't a great idea right now purely because of ddr4 costs,

that said once prices drop id consider 5820k because while gaming will be the same having 50% more cpu power for only 11% more money (cpu only, £270 vs £300) will mean less need to upgrade and you could have a game run on 3 cores 6 threads and have wan show on another monitor running on another core (2 threads) and still have the equivilant of an i3 spare...

so long as your willing to thread assign with task manager or course.

its what i do with my fx, i can run a game on half my cpu which is equivilant to a phenom and still have the other half spare for other tasks.

its just a higher ceiling.

question is do you really want it right now or are you willing to wait.....6? months for ddr4 ram prices to start dropping because at the moment for ddr3 2400 4x4gb kit you're looking around £150-160, for that same speed and amount of ddr4 you're looking at  about £240 (60%? more)

 

Well a 6 core 5820k will not overclock as good as a 4790K

the architecture is the same, but the memory controllers arent.

the 6 and 8 core cpu´s will not overclock that far as the 4790k normaly

[roberrrtz]

I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

If you plan on sli/cf, definitly go for the 5930k, the 5820k only has 28 pcie lanes, 16x/8x, 8x/8x/8x, while the 5930,k has 40, 16x/16x, 16x/16x/8x, 16x/8x/8x/8x.

I know the diference is marginal, but still

[battossi]

Short answer: They will perform equally in games. You're not going to be gaining any gaming performance by going X99, it's a waste of money.

I personally believe we will see multi core optimized games in the next year or so. Not to mention the next elderscrolls, battle field, and possibly far cry 4. Problem is....we just don't know. Don't fret! If you go z97 you will probably see 60 fps clearly in the future so no worries! 

 

Hey forumers, 

 

I'm going to build a new system around the 5820 k and one final question that I have is how the 5820k compare against the 4790k in gaming performance. Will I be enjoying any noticeable fps benefit or smoother gameplay with the 5820k from any games? I don't mean an apple to apple comparison though. What I want to compare is 5820 K, DDR 4, X99 platform vs the 4790K, DDR 3 and X79 platform. 

 

Thank you all in advance.. you guys are awesome 

Get what you feel is right. We don't know enough of what monster game may come out next. I am personally going with x99 due to youtube and video rendering for my own channel. Anything that can shave off seconds to my render time is a god send.

 

In my opinion...once x99 is all semi bug free I believe it will be great! ddr 4 is also going to be around for a while. The way I look at it my decision of going with the x99 may make my upgrading and cost easier and lower in the future.Just my opinion though.

[UnbendingNose]

That's quite sad to hear. I'm still quite inclined to go with the X-99 platform because it can take advantage of the faster DDR 4 memory (it is newer too). It seems to me like it is a bad time now to get the 4790 k because I don't know when the broadwell 5790 k will be out. Sigh I'm quite tired of this waiting game to be honest but I have a disease of wanting the newest toys in the market. I might even spend a little more and the 5930 k too if the 5820 k is that bad.

Broadwell is rumored to only have a 5% increase in IPC, instructions per clock. I believe the jump from ivy bridge to haswell had like a 10% increase in IPC. Skylake is the archetecture people will want to wait for.

[battossi]

Broadwell is rumored to only have a 5% increase in IPC, instructions per clock. I believe the jump from ivy bridge to haswell had like a 10% increase in IPC. Skylake is the archetecture people will want to wait for.

 

Yep. How mad do you think people including myself will be if skylake only boast a 5% increase. LOL