AMD FX 8350 vs i5 4670k

[i_build_nanosuits]

No point in arguing with this guy. Just a troll, anyone that proves him wrong is either "talking out of their ass" or is apparently fabricating the results. 

 

Anyone saying that either one is better than the other is wrong. Check: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/837?vs=697 and http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=1192&pid2=1140&compare=core-i5-4670k-3-4ghz-vs-fx-8350

 

They trade blows, so ye... saying one is better than the other is misleading. Both are good dependant on the tasks being done.

no, just no...for gaming they won't ''trade blows'' at all.. the core i5 is a MUCH better gaming chip all around...for multi-tasking (video editing, 3d rendering etc.) it's another story, but for gaming alone, the FX chip won't stand a chance (and i owned both i ran an FX-8320@4.6GHZ with my GTX 780 for over 6 months and when compared to intel cpu's the performance is just not there, sorry)

[thebennyboy]

no, just no...for gaming they won't ''trade blows'' at all.. the core i5 is a MUCH better gaming chip all around...for multi-tasking (video editing, 3d rendering etc.) it's another story, but for gaming alone, the FX chip won't stand a chance (and i owned both i ran an FX-8320@4.6GHZ with my GTX 780 for over 6 months and when compared to intel cpu's the performance is just not there, sorry)

 

Where did i say they traded blows for gaming? Please read it again. As a whole they trade blows. I've also highlighted in bold what i don't agree with, unless you are going to specify a specific Intel CPU. In which case we are talking about the FX 8350 and i5 4670k, if you look up gaming comparisons for these specific CPU's they perform pretty similarly. 

[Casual]

Oh wait, not sure what he wants It for (so my above post may not apply).

 

Did OP state anywhere what he was looking to do with his PC?

 

If anyone has an 8350 and would want to do some Overclock benchmarks with my 4670k I'm down. They are unlocked, so no point In buying an unlocked CPU If you wont be doing any overclocks

 

Were the FX series recently ended? Someone told me AMD might just be purley focusing on APU's from now on. Not sure how true that Is.

[Faa]

No point in arguing with this guy. Just a troll, anyone that proves him wrong is either "talking out of their ass" or is apparently fabricating the results. 

 

Anyone saying that either one is better than the other is wrong. Check: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/837?vs=697 and http://www.game-debate.com/cpu/index.php?pid=1192&pid2=1140&compare=core-i5-4670k-3-4ghz-vs-fx-8350

 

They trade blows, so ye... saying one is better than the other is misleading. Both are good dependant on the tasks being done.

[i_build_nanosuits]

holy crapoly that was some intense benchmarking right there...those sites just cant all be wrong isnt it?

[Faa]

holy crapoly that was some intense benchmarking right there...those sites just cant all be wrong isnt it?

Dude they all are wrong. TAKSYAMDICATE SAID IT

AMD quad core apu is faster than the 4770K

Quad core APU wrecking a 4770K.. Lol Intel sucks.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Dude they all are wrong. TAKSYAMDICATE SAID IT

AMD quad core apu is faster than the 4770K

Quad core APU wrecking a 4770K.. Lol Intel sucks.

how come do you think that pistol from tek syndicrap runs an fx-9590 in her main rig? those videos gaved them some freebees

[Faa]

how come do you think that pistol from tek syndicrap runs an fx-9590 in her main rig? those videos gaved them some freebees

Haha yea. Paired with a 200$ board and a nh-d14 that couldn't cool it

"That pistol" sounds like an "item" in that sentence lol

 

[Razzaa]

LMAO. Do you guys follow each other from thread to thread and like each others posts? Every time I check this forum I see an Amd vs Intel thread and then BOOM......you guys are all over it like fat kids and cake!!! Funniest shit I have ever seen on a forum. You two live together? Lol Faanosuits!!!!

[i_build_nanosuits]

LMAO. Do you guys follow each other from thread to thread and like each others posts? Every time I check this forum I see an Amd vs Intel thread and then BOOM......you guys are all over it like fat kids and cake!!! Funniest shit I have ever seen on a forum. You two live together? Lol Faanosuits!!!!

hahaha you and bigstroonz should see how much we hated ourselves like literally a month ago when i was running my FX, and like you i thought it was an AWESOME chip, just look back at my earlier discussion on this forum when i was on denial about the FX chip performing just as good as intel i5!!! You should look at some of those discussions i swear, just look back.

[Bloodkil933]

This has now just turned into a fanboy war, my FX-8350 @ 4.8GHz runs everything I throw at it with 60+ fps (except Crysis 3)

[i_build_nanosuits]

This has now just turned into a fanboy war, my FX-8350 @ 4.8GHz runs everything I throw at it with 60+ fps (except Crysis 3)

theres no denying that but your gpu could probably run most of them at 120+ fps...

[patrickjp93]

This has now just turned into a fanboy war, my FX-8350 @ 4.8GHz runs everything I throw at it with 60+ fps (except Crysis 3)

Lulz, the 9590 and the 8350 really are the same chip, the 9590 just has a better heatspreader (220 watt TDP).

[i_build_nanosuits]

Lulz, the 9590 and the 8350 really are the same chip, the 9590 just has a better heatspreader (220 watt TDP).

they are indeed the same the 9590 is only a factory overclocked binned fx8350, its just as bad for gaming and it does not have a ''better heatspreader'' they are exactly the same.

[patrickjp93]

they are indeed the same the 9590 is only a factory overclocked binned fx8350, its just as bad for gaming and it does not have a ''better heatspreader'' they are exactly the same.

Doesn't AMD base their TDP on how much heat the CPU heatspreaders are expected to transfer?

 

I know Intel bases theirs on how much energy is put into the CPU itself.

[thebennyboy]

Doesn't AMD base their TDP on how much heat the CPU heatspreaders are expected to transfer?

 

I know Intel bases theirs on how much energy is put into the CPU itself.

 

AnandTech has a pretty good explaination of how Intel and AMD define TDP. Here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2807/2

[patrickjp93]

AnandTech has a pretty good explaination of how Intel and AMD define TDP. Here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2807/2

Same extrapolation, different starting point.

[Faa]

This has now just turned into a fanboy war, my FX-8350 @ 4.8GHz runs everything I throw at it with 60+ fps (except Crysis 3)

It all started with twisted advertising his home-made furmark gpu stability graphs after he has been proved wrong in an earlier thread. Then you started provoking with "games are all about single core performance BWAHAHA" when you have no ideas what the difference between a software & hardware thread is, after that we've seen a guy who yelled that AMD is better and lastly razaa provoking again. After I disproved your claims for the 20th time in a week time, you didnt want to stop your erotic amd stories and you're wondering why this thread turned into a fanboy war.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Doesn't AMD base their TDP on how much heat the CPU heatspreaders are expected to transfer?

 

I know Intel bases theirs on how much energy is put into the CPU itself.

in short (very short in fact) TDP is based on the overall heat that has to be dissipated from the CPU itself, the fact that the 9590 got higher TDP is because it's running overclocked at 1.5v on the core and 5 ghz...take an FX-8350 that can do 5ghz with 1.5v on the core (they pretty much all can do this BTW) and you've got yourself an FX-9590...

[Bloodkil933]

It all started with twisted advertising his home-made furmark gpu stability graphs after he has been proved wrong in an earlier thread. Then you started provoking with "games are all about single core performance BWAHAHA" when you have no ideas what the difference between a software & hardware thread is, after that we've seen a guy who yelled that AMD is better and lastly razaa provoking again. After I disproved your claims for the 20th time in a week time, you didnt want to stop your erotic amd stories and you're wondering why this thread turned into a fanboy war.

All you did was posted benchmarks of poorly threaded applications, Intel has for a while had stronger single core performance, show me a benchmark of a well threaded game where the 8350 falls "100% behind" as you previously claimed.

[Bloodkil933]

in short (very short in fact) TDP is based on the overall heat that has to be dissipated from the CPU itself, the fact that the 9590 got higher TDP is because it's running overclocked at 1.5v on the core and 5 ghz...take an FX-8350 that can do 5ghz with 1.5v on the core (they pretty much all can do this BTW) and you've got yourself an FX-9590...

I agree, I mean if i pushed 1.55v through my 8350 it would do 5.0GHz, but that's too high for 24/7. I run it comfortably at 4.8Ghz at 1.47v. The 9590 was for people who have more money than time since most 8320/8350's will do 4.7GHz.

[vm'N]

TDP is only the theoretical thermal output limit.

TDP is calculated through alot of variables on the architecture and much more.

take an FX-8350 that can do 5ghz with 1.5v on the core (they pretty much all can do this BTW) and you've got yourself an FX-9590...

I'm pretty sure todays fx 8350 is on average stuck at 4.7GHz (plus minus 0.1GHz).

when you have no ideas what the difference between a software & hardware thread is

Please explain what a "hardware thread" is.

[Razzaa]

All you did was posted benchmarks of poorly threaded applications, Intel has for a while had stronger single core performance, show me a benchmark of a well threaded game where the 8350 falls "100% behind" as you previously claimed.

Watch out!! Telling him it isnt 100% faster overall performance is like calling his GF a cunt. He hears ZOMG AMD is better than Intel!!! And he be like FU boom single threaded poorly optimized benches inc!!!! 200% Faster bitches!! Hail Intel!!

[Bloodkil933]

TDP is only the theoretical thermal output limit.

TDP is calculated through alot of variables on the architecture and much more.

I'm pretty sure todays fx 8350 is on average stuck at 4.7GHz (plus minus 0.1GHz).

Please explain what a "hardware thread" is.

I didn't think their was such a thing 0,o.

 

Although admittedly I have no idea how what the difference between the AMD 8 core and Intel's Hyperthreading. I'm guessing it's to do with their architectures.

[patrickjp93]

Watch out!! Telling him it isnt 100% faster overall performance is like calling his GF a cunt. He hears ZOMG AMD is better than Intel!!! And he be like FU boom single threaded poorly optimized benches inc!!!! 200% Faster bitches!! Hail Intel!!

Don't get me wrong: parallelism grants a great performance boost, but what consumer software is really optimized for that/needs multi-core processing? Usually anything that uses more than 4 simultaneous threads is a professional piece of software. I doubt games will get beyond 4-thread optimization for at least 5 years too. Most of the gaming community would be locked out.