How to Create Custom Heatshrinkless Sleeved Cables

[Hyydrah]

I found this video that I found to be extremely helpful for my upcoming cable project, and thought that I'd share it with you

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmj5B8z1Os

 

Enjoy.

[alpenwasser]

I actually ordered some sleeving supplies (crimper, pins, connectors) from his shop

for my two current builds. The crimper works great, and shipping was pretty quick

considering it had to traverse the Atlantic. His tutorials really are excellent, they

are pretty much what got me into sleeving in the first place a long while back.

[extremescouter]

Thanks for this video! I am also trying to research cable sleeving, and use it on an upcoming build. 

[Hyydrah]

I actually ordered some sleeving supplies (crimper, pins, connectors) from his shop

for my two current builds. The crimper works great, and shipping was pretty quick

considering it had to traverse the Atlantic. His tutorials really are excellent, they

are pretty much what got me into sleeving in the first place a long while back.

Do you know if this is all compatible, and what else will I need to make two 8-pin PCI-E, a 8-pin EPS and a 24-pin cable when I have snippers and a lighter?

 

2 Male PCI-E Connectors: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/8-pin-male-pci-e-connector

 

2 Female PCI-E Connectors: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/8-pin-pci-e-connector

 

25' 16AWG Black Wire: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/lc-custom-16awg-black-wire-1ft

 

2 4' Heatshrink: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/1-4th-inch-3-1-ratio-heatshrink-4ft-for-heatshrinkless

 

25' Red Sleeving: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/copy-of-lc-stiff-line-sleeving-red-25ft

 

25' White Sleeving: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/lc-stiff-line-sleeving-white-25ft

 

25' Black Sleeving: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/lc-stiff-line-sleeving-black-25ft

 

25 5 Female ATX Terminals: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/molex-female-atx-terminal-5-count

 

25 5 Male ATX Terminals: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/molex-male-atx-terminal-5-count

 

1 Male EPS Connector: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/8-pin-eps-male-connector

 

1 Female EPS Connector: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/8-pin-eps-female-connector

 

1 Male 24-pin Connector: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/24-pin-male-connector

 

1 Female 24-pin Connector: http://lutro0-customs.com/products/24-pin-female-connector

[ericlee30]

LutrO does a great job sleeving extensions , but he is way overpriced for sleeving extensions, $300 for Custom Paracord sleeving, is way, way to much,Paracord is the cheapest sleeving on the market. I live in the U.S.A. and I can sleeve my entire 1250W XFX PSU, without extensions with MDPC-X sleeving for $250 if I do it my self. If I can do that with the best sleeving on this planet, then is $300 for custom Paracord really worth it? It is not even the entire PSU, just extensions. How much price gauging does he really need to do for simple Extensions. Just saying

[Hyydrah]

LutrO does a great job sleeving extensions , but he is way overpriced for sleeving extensions, $300 for Custom Paracord sleeving, is way, way to much,Paracord is the cheapest sleeving on the market. I live in the U.S.A. and I can sleeve my entire 1250W XFX PSU, without extensions with MDPC-X sleeving for $250 if I do it my self. If I can do that with the best sleeving on this planet, then is $300 for custom Paracord really worth it? It is not even the entire PSU, just extensions. How much price gauging does he really need to do for simple Extensions. Just saying

I posted a video showing how to do it yourself, the materials won't cost NEARLY that much

[ericlee30]

I posted a video showing how to do it yourself, the materials won't cost NEARLY that much.

No, I know bro, just saying if you paid him to do it for you, is what I was saying. You are correct though, if you did it your self, Paracord would be cheaper to do.

[Hyydrah]

No, I know bro, just saying if you paid him to do it for you, is what I was saying. You are correct though, if you did it your self, Paracord would be cheaper to do.

Yeah, his pricing is through the roof for when he makes them for you, but his materials are reasonably priced

[ericlee30]

Yeah, his pricing is through the roof for when he makes them for you, but his materials are reasonably priced.

I agree fully on the materials :), I just have a hard time figuring why he charges so much when he does it? I was thinking of sleeving a while back, with MDPC-X sleeving and between the cost of the material and the price that I thought was right to gain back my money and gain some profit, was $30 a  24 pin extension and $15 for all the others, and charge $325 to do a hole PSU with out extensions, that would give me $10 profit for each extension I do and about $90 for the hole PSU. I look at it like this, if your not trying to get rich over night, then you will gain more business and more clients over all. I just don't get greedy people.

[Hyydrah]

I agree fully on the materials :), I just have a hard time figuring why he charges so much when he does it? I was thinking of sleeving a while back, with MDPC-X sleeving and between the cost of the material and the price that I thought was right to gain back my money and gain some profit, was $30 a  24 pin extension and $15 for all the others, and charge $325 to do a hole PSU with out extensions, that would give me $10 profit for each extension I do and about $90 for the hole PSU. I look at it like this, if your not trying to get rich over night, then you will gain more business and more clients over all. I just don't get greedy people.

I don't think he's doing too well in terms of business. Look at his store, there are a ton of items that are reduced in price

[ericlee30]

I don't think he's doing too well in terms of business. Look at his store, there are a ton of items that are reduced in price.

hummm,, it's to bad. He seems like a really nice and good guy, just don't understand the outrageous prices he has for doing the custom sleeving for clients :( he needs to cut his sleeving prices too, that $60 for a paracord 24 pin extension and $75 for a stiff-line 24 pin extension is ridiculous.

[alpenwasser]

Dave Zember, on 21 May 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

Do you know if this is all compatible, and what else will I need to make two 8-pin PCI-E, a 8-pin EPS and a 24-pin cable when I have snippers and a lighter?

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Do you wish to do completely new cables or extensions? If you're doing extensions the

list looks pretty good, what I'd add are the following:

• Paracord threader: I have one, and it's absolutely invaluable for paracord

  sleeving IMO. I think the inventor Lutro0's talking about is probably the owner of

  http://pccablesleeving.com (where I ordered mine), but the site's offline. :( As a

  side note, Lutro0's price is 1 USD less than the original price IIRC, just FYI.

• 4 pin extractor: You don't really need this for 24 pins and EPS cables, but it's not

  that expensive, and if you ever need to do a 4 pin cable you will already have the tool.

• Molex extractor: I have tried alternatives because I didn't know Molex actually

  make their own tool, but trust me, you do not want to use anything else. You really

  don't. I can also say that his price for the tool is very reasonable, I have seen these

  being sold for more than double.

• Crimper. Mine works great, not too much to say about it. It's a bit better suited for

  larger gauge wires than MDPC-X's tool, but it's basically the same tool since it's

  made by the same company according to Lutro0.

If you're doing completely new cables instead of extensions, I would guess you'd probably

need to recycle the PSU's connectors to connect the cables to the PSU (many fully modular

PSUs have not-so-common connectors for their cables on the PSU side of things).

In that case you won't be needing the male connectors and pins, those are only

useful for doing extensions.

 

ericlee30, on 21 May 2013 - 03:39 AM, said:

LutrO does a great job sleeving extensions , but he is way overpriced for sleeving extensions, $300 for Custom Paracord sleeving, is way, way to much,Paracord is the cheapest sleeving on the market. I live in the U.S.A. and I can sleeve my entire 1250W XFX PSU, without extensions with MDPC-X sleeving for $250 if I do it my self. If I can do that with the best sleeving on this planet, then is $300 for custom Paracord really worth it? It is not even the entire PSU, just extensions. How much price gauging does he really need to do for simple Extensions. Just saying

To be honest, I don't think it's that unreasonable. Sleeving is an insane amount

of work! Sure he's probably quite a bit faster than me due to having a lot more practice,

but still, making a complete set of extensions will take him quite a while I would guess.

Then again, maybe he's priced extensions this high on purpose so that he doesn't get too

many orders. If you own a business there's lots of stuff to do, spending your time making

cable extensions is probably going to let your TODO list grow significantly in the meantime.

 

Dave Zember, on 21 May 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

I don't think he's doing too well in terms of business. Look at his store, there are a ton of items that are reduced in price.

They might just be introductory prices since the store has only opened recently. When I

last checked on his Youtube channel they were still in the middle of moving into their

office spaces, and it was quite a large space. MDPC-X seems to be doing ok, and I'm

thinking that at least for North America Lutro0 will probably be preferred since he's

a lot closer to the customer than Nils from Germany.

It would be a shame if he went under, he's a really nice guy (as is Nils), and I bought

from him because his crimper is a bit more suited for larger gauge wires than the one

MDPC-X sells (I'm doing silicone wires for HELIOS, which are a larger diameter than their

PVC counterparts).

EDIT: pexon says it takes him about 10 to 12 hours to do an entire PSU. He also does custom

jobs I think. See this thread.

[lutro0customs]

Hey guys, someone let me know you had the pricing all wrong.  :D

 

http://lutro0-customs.com/collections/custom-sleeving-jobs

 

Read that page first, the price you read was just a placeholder - I have removed the price to get rid of any confusion.

 

My prices are even then still higher then most due to life time warranties and custom fitting inside of a case - they are not mass made for everyone but made to fit inside just that persons computer. Quality sleeving takes time - quality custom sleeving that I would use in one of my own systems taken even more. I would always rather a person make their own, but some people just dont have the time or they want that special solution for a showcase mod.

As for my other prices - I purposely keep them lower then most because I want people to get into the hobby and that to me is worth more then padding my pocket with a few extra bucks. 

The store is doing really well infact with lots of new products coming out here soon.

[skullbringer]

Hey guys, someone let me know you had the pricing all wrong.  :D

 

http://lutro0-customs.com/collections/custom-sleeving-jobs

 

Read that page first, the price you read was just a placeholder - I have removed the price to get rid of any confusion.

 

My prices are even then still higher then most due to life time warranties and custom fitting inside of a case - they are not mass made for everyone but made to fit inside just that persons computer. Quality sleeving takes time - quality custom sleeving that I would use in one of my own systems taken even more. I would always rather a person make their own, but some people just dont have the time or they want that special solution for a showcase mod.

As for my other prices - I purposely keep them lower then most because I want people to get into the hobby and that to me is worth more then padding my pocket with a few extra bucks. 

The store is doing really well infact with lots of new products coming out here soon.

 

but how do I do sata push in connectors heatshrinkless with MDPC-X ?

[lutro0customs]

but how do I do sata push in connectors heatshrinkless with MDPC-X ?

 

If you are talking about the crimp style Sata Power Connector - you have to make the melt point down a little bit. As the way the crimp connecor snaps in is it use a tab on the top. If you can go as high as possible without covering that tab and still fit into the connector it will work.

 

check this pic for an estimate: The circle is where you will melt with HS, you will want to avoid covering where the arrow is.

 

Watch this video for the basic method:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rmj5B8z1Os

[skullbringer]

is there also a way to do the push-in-style sata power ones heatshrinkless?

[lutro0customs]

is there also a way to do the push-in-style sata power ones heatshrinkless?

 

Yes, Please check my FAQ: http://www.overclock.net/t/1262900/frequently-asked-sleeving-questions/0_20

for the many different styles of sleeving them.

 

However for heatshrinkless I have seen people cut away some of it to get it to fit, melt some of it to make it fit, and use super glue. There really isnt really a perfect way to do it as its up to you what works easily for you which is why I have not done a sleeving guide on those cables yet.

[alpenwasser]

Hi Lutro0, great to have you here! :)

The store is doing really well infact with lots of new products coming out here soon.

That is excellent to know! I'm really happy with my purchase. The crimp tool works

great even with 3.1 mm thick AWG16 silicone wire, and it didn't even take all that

long to get to Switzerland. Hope you live long and prosper and all that good stuff. :)

And as you say, properly done sleeving takes a lot of time, well worth some money,

at least in my opinion.

[Hyydrah]

Hey guys, someone let me know you had the pricing all wrong.  :D

 

http://lutro0-customs.com/collections/custom-sleeving-jobs

 

Read that page first, the price you read was just a placeholder - I have removed the price to get rid of any confusion.

 

My prices are even then still higher then most due to life time warranties and custom fitting inside of a case - they are not mass made for everyone but made to fit inside just that persons computer. Quality sleeving takes time - quality custom sleeving that I would use in one of my own systems taken even more. I would always rather a person make their own, but some people just dont have the time or they want that special solution for a showcase mod.

As for my other prices - I purposely keep them lower then most because I want people to get into the hobby and that to me is worth more then padding my pocket with a few extra bucks. 

The store is doing really well infact with lots of new products coming out here soon.

Welcome to the forum, Lutro0, you'll likely be seeing a lot more sleeving modders on this forum in the near future. As for the pricing, now it makes a lot more sense, especially since you get a lifetime warranty. Bitfenix cable extensions come in at most a two-color pattern and they're $10 while being not nearly as attractive as custom sleeved cables, and without a lifetime warranty, so the pricing is quite fair

 

Looking forward to getting in to sleeving and purchasing everything from your shop. Thanks for clearing up the misunderstanding

[lutro0customs]

Welcome to the forum, Lutro0, you'll likely be seeing a lot more sleeving modders on this forum in the near future. As for the pricing, now it makes a lot more sense, especially since you get a lifetime warranty. Bitfenix cable extensions come in at most a two-color pattern and they're $10 while being not nearly as attractive as custom sleeved cables, and without a lifetime warranty, so the pricing is quite fair.

 

Looking forward to getting in to sleeving and purchasing everything from your shop. Thanks for clearing up the misunderstanding.

 

 

Hey no problem bud. Custom cabling that is done right just takes a long time period. Each system I do is cabled just for that system so I take my time and thats why you get a clean custom look. I also use all my own supplies which I either made or had produced just for my sleeving so I controll the quality of the supplies and work.

The whole reason I even got into business is to help others do their own work, but I do enjoy doing custom jobs from time to time as well.

[TryHardPajamas]

LutrO does a great job sleeving extensions , but he is way overpriced for sleeving extensions, $300 for Custom Paracord sleeving, is way, way to much,Paracord is the cheapest sleeving on the market. I live in the U.S.A. and I can sleeve my entire 1250W XFX PSU, without extensions with MDPC-X sleeving for $250 if I do it my self. If I can do that with the best sleeving on this planet, then is $300 for custom Paracord really worth it? It is not even the entire PSU, just extensions. How much price gauging does he really need to do for simple Extensions. Just saying

 

I think we all understand what you are saying, but to be honest there are other reasons as to why people buy from him. People are going to buy from him because they want it sone properly, or because the time they will take to learn and fiddle with the sleeving process is just not worth it to them.

[ericlee30]

I think we all understand what you are saying, but to be honest there are other reasons as to why people buy from him. People are going to buy from him because they want it sone properly, or because the time they will take to learn and fiddle with the sleeving process is just not worth it to them.

I can 100% agree with you on that. Some people just don't have the time to sleeve it themselves or they just flat out don't want to do it themselves, which is completely understandable, but for people like myself that like doing sleeving, I think a 24-pin extension at $60 bucks is a little too steep. You can buy two meters of MDPC sleeving and 100 pre-cut heat shrinks for $34.08 US dollars. So with his $60 I can almost build four 24-pin extensions by myself (with better sleeving) to his one 24-pin extension. I think the more appropriate price, in my opinion, would be roughly $20-$25 at a fair price. Other than that he does really well at his job, but I think what he does is price gouging. All I would suggest is that he lower his price on that item, for people will start building them themselves just to save money.

[TryHardPajamas]

I can 100% agree with you on that. Some people just don't have the time to sleeve it themselves or they just flat out don't want to do it themselves, which is completely understandable, but for people like myself that like doing sleeving, I think a 24-pin extension at $60 bucks is a little too steep. You can buy two meters of MDPC sleeving and 100 pre-cut heat shrinks for $34.08 US dollars. So with his $60 I can almost build four 24-pin extensions by myself (with better sleeving) to his one 24-pin extension. I think the more appropriate price, in my opinion, would be roughly $20-$25 at a fair price. Other than that he does really well at his job, but I think what he does is price gouging. All I would suggest is that he lower his price on that item, for people will start building them themselves just to save money.

 

I think the price is the way it is because of his labor, but again i agree with what you are saying about some people just being better off doing it themselves. (thinking about it  a bit more, paracord must be incredibly cheep so his time must be ver ver valuable, which is understandable.)

[ericlee30]

I think the price is the way it is because of his labor, but again i agree with what you are saying about some people just being better off doing it themselves. (thinking about it  a bit more, paracord must be incredibly cheep so his time must be ver ver valuable, which is understandable.)

I fully agree, I know sleeving is very time consuming, I do it just as a hobby for myself but I'm a person that if I was doing it as a business I would want as much business as I could possibly have. Calculating 4 of my sleeving 24-pin cables sold at $25 dollars rather than his $60 (it would cost me $65 to make the four 24-pin sleeve cables), I would gain a $35 profit and have more consumers along with that. I would have more clients buying from my business because of lower prices and better sleeving and in the long run would gain more profit even though my prices are lower. In one lump sum yes he can make more profit than me, but like I said in the long run I would be making the better profit. In my opinion I don't think that the labor cost should be that high if it's something that you like doing.

[whatthe_fuzz]

Lutro0 was by far the most pleasant and enjoyable business transaction I've ever had. the quality of his stiffline sleeving is superb. I have 10 cables left on my build before my main cables on my psu are sleeved :D