What CPU should I get?

[BeatTheYeet]

I currently have an i5 6400 clocked at 2.7GHz with a boost clock of 3.3GHz paired with a GTX 1070. I want good gaming performance, but I also want good productivity performance as well. I am not overclocking (at least yet, but I may in the future) and I want something that is future proof. I also needed a motherboard upgrade as well. Right now I was looking at an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 4GHz which costs on Amazon around $350. Is this CPU good or should I go with something else? Thank you!

 

Rest of PC specs in case you need them.

750W Gold PSU

2TB Hard Drive (I know I don't have an SSD leave me alone)

MSI b150m pro-d

EVGA Geforce GTX 1070 FTW ACX 3.0

4k display

16GB 2400MHz RAM (I have 2 other 8GB sticks that I haven't installed because my second RAM socket is dead)

 

[nick name]

The motherboard cost for Threadripper is much more than standard CPUs.  Have you figured that into your cost?  And a first gen Threadripper CPU is gonna be similar to your current gaming performance.  

[BeatTheYeet]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

The motherboard cost for Threadripper is much more than standard CPUs.  Have you figured that into your cost?  And a first gen Threadripper CPU is gonna be similar to your current gaming performance.  

It would be similar? I thought it would be a lot better. Gaming is my main priority, but I also do some productivity. With my current i5 6400, it bottlenecks my GTX 1070 so hard I have 30fps in Battlefield 1 and V even when I set graphics to low.

[xg32]

1 minute ago, BeatTheYeet said:

It would be similar? I thought it would be a lot better. Gaming is my main priority, but I also do some productivity. With my current i5 6400, it bottlenecks my GTX 1070 so hard I have 30fps in Battlefield 1 and V even when I set graphics to low.

unless you are dead set on getting threadripper,

 

get a 1700x for 150usd on newegg, then buy one of the motheboard combos with this ram 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232217

 

if you need 32gb theres a great deal going on for that, same ram.

[nick name]

1 minute ago, BeatTheYeet said:

It would be similar? I thought it would be a lot better. Gaming is my main priority, but I also do some productivity. With my current i5 6400, it bottlenecks my GTX 1070 so hard I have 30fps in Battlefield 1 and V even when I set graphics to low.

That sounds like you have v-sync enabled.  Is that the case?  

 

And I guess the Threadripper might be a little better in those titles, but a first gen Threadripper isn't clocked tremendously higher.  

[BeatTheYeet]

Just now, nick name said:

That sounds like you have v-sync enabled.  Is that the case?  

 

And I guess the Threadripper might be a little better in those titles, but a first gen Threadripper isn't clocked tremendously higher.  

I never enable V-Sync. I hate it. In fact, it dips below 30fps too. It does that for cpu demanding games. GTA 5 likes to dip below 60fps a lot. Garry's mod too (granted add ons might cause this).

[nick name]

Just now, BeatTheYeet said:

I never enable V-Sync. I hate it. In fact, it dips below 30fps too. It does that for cpu demanding games. GTA 5 likes to dip below 60fps a lot. Garry's mod too (granted add ons might cause this).

Ok, I am an idiot and misremembered the clocks for Threadripper.  It is higher than I thought it was, but I am afraid it isn't high enough to make you think you are getting enough performance for the price you'll pay.  

 

Sorry I am drinking.

[BeatTheYeet]

4 minutes ago, xg32 said:

unless you are dead set on getting threadripper,

 

get a 1700x for 150usd on newegg, then buy one of the motheboard combos with this ram 

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820232217

 

if you need 32gb theres a great deal going on for that, same ram.

This is the last upgrade I will probably get for a while, are you sure 1700x? A 2700x has better performance and a better cooler. Also I don't have enough budget for more RAM, however if it is because of the RAM speed, the second pair of RAM that I have is clocked at 2666MHz.

[BeatTheYeet]

5 minutes ago, nick name said:

Ok, I am an idiot and misremembered the clocks for Threadripper.  It is higher than I thought it was, but I am afraid it isn't high enough to make you think you are getting enough performance for the price you'll pay.  

 

Sorry I am drinking.

What about a Ryzen 2700x? Slightly worse gaming performance than an i7 8700k (which im fine about since it is better than a 7700k), but it demolishes it in productivity.

[nick name]

5 minutes ago, BeatTheYeet said:

What about a Ryzen 2700x? Slightly worse gaming performance than an i7 8700k (which im fine about since it is better than a 7700k), but it demolishes it in productivity.

I am assuming you're not gaming in 1080p so the 2700X does as well as your GPU.  

[BeatTheYeet]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

I am assuming you're not gaming in 1080p so the 2700X does as well as your GPU.  

It's a little weird. I kinda flip flop between displays. Sometimes I will go over somewhere and use a 1080p display. However for the time being, my main one is a 4k display.

[nick name]

Just now, BeatTheYeet said:

It's a little weird. I kinda flip flop between displays. Sometimes I will go over somewhere and use a 1080p display. However for the time being, my main one is a 4k display.

The only game I play that suffers from using my 2700X is CSGO.  However, if you consider a bajillion FPS in 4K suffering then I think you'll be fine with a 2700X.

 

[BeatTheYeet]

4 minutes ago, nick name said:

I am assuming you're not gaming in 1080p so the 2700X does as well as your GPU.  

I also have one more question. I'm a little worried about switching to Ryzen since they rely on RAM speeds. My current RAM sticks in my PC are 2400MHz. I have 2 other 8GB sticks that are 2666MHz. If I were to get Ryzen, would it be better for me to use the 2 8GB 2666MHz sticks or to combine all the sticks to make 32GB, but at a reduced 2400MHz speed. Right now higher speed RAM, isn't in my budget, so I can't upgrade that at the moment.

[nishank93]

3 minutes ago, BeatTheYeet said:

I also have one more question. I'm a little worried about switching to Ryzen since they rely on RAM speeds. My current RAM sticks in my PC are 2400MHz. I have 2 other 8GB sticks that are 2666MHz. If I were to get Ryzen, would it be better for me to use the 2 8GB 2666MHz sticks or to combine all the sticks to make 32GB, but at a reduced 2400MHz speed. Right now higher speed RAM, isn't in my budget, so I can't upgrade that at the moment.

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-performance-with-ryzen-7-2700x-on-the-amd-x470-platform_205154
The difference isn't massive between 2400MHz and 2666MHz. Either way, if you want more general CPU-based productivity you're pretty much stuck with Ryzen/Threadripper unless your budget is much larger.

[BeatTheYeet]

1 minute ago, nishank93 said:

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-performance-with-ryzen-7-2700x-on-the-amd-x470-platform_205154
The difference isn't massive between 2400MHz and 2666MHz. Either way, if you want more general CPU-based productivity you're pretty much stuck with Ryzen/Threadripper unless your budget is much larger.

Ok thank you!

[nick name]

You will want faster than that if you can get it though.  

[xg32]

40 minutes ago, BeatTheYeet said:

This is the last upgrade I will probably get for a while, are you sure 1700x? A 2700x has better performance and a better cooler. Also I don't have enough budget for more RAM, however if it is because of the RAM speed, the second pair of RAM that I have is clocked at 2666MHz.

if you are on a budget then that 1700x is a steal, if you want performance you can sit on that 1700x and upgrade to zen 2 when it comes out next year, going 2700x means you probably sunk 150usd more b4 zen 2 comes out. zen 2 is what i would sit on for 3 years.

[BeatTheYeet]

Thanks guys! I think I am going to stick with a 2700x. 

[nick name]

11 hours ago, BeatTheYeet said:

Thanks guys! I think I am going to stick with a 2700x. 

I would suggest the ASUS ROG Strix X470 or the ASUS Crosshair VII.  Whichever you can afford.  Both motherboards will have the Performance Enhancer Levels 3 and 4 (ASUS X470 Prime Pro only has Levels 1 and 2) and Levels 3 and 4 act as an automatic XFR/PBO overclock for the 2700X.  The better cooling you use the better it will "overclock" your CPU.  It is also adjustable if you use Ryzen Master to change EDC.