New gaming cpu

[Marziin111]

Hello,

 

I am looking for a gaming CPU to run with a water-cooled RTX 2080 Ti including a new motherboard of course. I have been looking at the Ryzen 2 2700X and the Intel Core i7 8700k as well as the 9700k. For the 9700K Intel removed HT, is this a big deal?

 

Motherboard-wise I want to stick with Asus and go with something like a ROG Strix or a ROG Maximus (Crosshair). Which one would you recommand? The Maximus Hero has a price difference of 70€ for the AMD and a bit more than 100€ for the Intel one compared to the Strix. Is it worth the extra money?

 

Greetings

Edited November 17, 2018 by Marziin111
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[3 Lions]

I'd go for the 8700K.

[lmeneses]

If you are gonna go intel, I would definitely get the 8700k. As for the motherboard, the strix is fine, the maxiumus is more of a enthusiast type board

[Marziin111]

Do the motherboards have comparable overclocking possibilities?

[Yous3f_M]

8700k is best cause there is no need to go to the 9900k or 9700k its good or you can also go with the 7800x with a x299 mobo

[Yous3f_M]

1 minute ago, Marziin111 said:

Do the motherboards have comparable overclocking possibilities?

if you want to overclock i think evga motherboards are best for it

[lmeneses]

2 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

Do the motherboards have comparable overclocking possibilities?

Yes, obviously the maximus can handle more but for a 9700k or an 8700k, the strix is fine. The maximus is more for the 9900k or people who like to do crazy overclocks 

[lmeneses]

1 minute ago, Yous3f_M said:

if you want to overclock i think evga motherboards are best for it

Not really lol, more like Asus, asrock, and msi in that order, but it all depends on the board model, not the brand

[Yous3f_M]

3 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

Do the motherboards have comparable overclocking possibilities?

if you want to go with an 8700k and a evga motherboard this one is the best 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qPXnTW/evga-z370-classified-k-atx-lga1151-motherboard-134-ks-e379-kr

[Yous3f_M]

2 minutes ago, lmeneses said:

Not really lol, more like Asus, asrock, and msi in that order, but it all depends on the board model, not the brand

i say that cause the vrms have huge heatskinks in there motherboards so i think they are meant for overclocking

 

[Marziin111]

Ok. The i7 8700k has 16 PCIe lanes. If I go with a WiFi board I will loose 4 lanes due to the WiFi model (which also blocks one m2 slot) and 4 for a m2 SSD? So I only got 8 left for GPU?

[3 Lions]

3 minutes ago, Yous3f_M said:

if you want to overclock i think evga motherboards are best for it

That's subjective really.

[lmeneses]

Just now, Yous3f_M said:

i say that cause the vrms have huge heatskinks 

it can have huge heat sinks but if the rest of the vrms are shite, such as the capacitors and chokes, it doesnt make it good  

[Yous3f_M]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That's subjective really.

thats not on subjectivity that im saying that evga boards are better the vrms on most of the evga boards are huge so i thought they are meant for overclocking  

[3 Lions]

Just now, Yous3f_M said:

thats not on subjectivity that im saying that evga boards are better the vrms on most of the evga boards are huge so i thought they are meant for overclocking  

That's your opinion though. 

[Yous3f_M]

4 minutes ago, lmeneses said:

it can have huge heat sinks but if the rest of the vrms are shite, such as the capacitors and chokes, it doesnt make it good  

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/902875-best-z370-board-for-oc/

[Yous3f_M]

3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

That's your opinion though. 

take a look at this thread do u think that there is subjectivity in this thread

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/902875-best-z370-board-for-oc/

[lmeneses]

Just now, Yous3f_M said:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/902875-best-z370-board-for-oc/

what is this, the heatsinks arent the only thing that matter for ocing. If the capacitors suck, then the heatsinks are pointless. It is the whole vrm that does the job, not just one part of it 

[3 Lions]

Just now, Yous3f_M said:

take a look at this do u think that there is subjectivity in this 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/902875-best-z370-board-for-oc/

An opinion is an opinion, you cannot force an opinion.

[lmeneses]

9 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

Ok. The i7 8700k has 16 PCIe lanes. If I go with a WiFi board I will loose 4 lanes due to the WiFi model (which also blocks one m2 slot) and 4 for a m2 SSD? So I only got 8 left for GPU?

That's not really how it works. The mobos have multiple pcie express slots, so whatever takes up each slot, takes up the bandwidth of that slot. So, most motherboards will have 1 slot with a bandwidth of 16, 2 with 8 maybe, and a few other smaller ones. So, the gpu usually goes in the one with 16, then your wifi card would go in one of the smaller slots. The cpu is irrelevant in that 

[lmeneses]

14 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

Ok. The i7 8700k has 16 PCIe lanes. If I go with a WiFi board I will loose 4 lanes due to the WiFi model (which also blocks one m2 slot) and 4 for a m2 SSD? So I only got 8 left for GPU?

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1229-anatomy-of-a-motherboard-what-is-a-vrm-mosfet?showall=1

 You can read this article if you want. It's a little old, but it is still relevant, it helped me learn the basics of motherboards

[Marziin111]

I found this on the Intel site, that is why I was wondering:

• PCI Express Configurations ^‡Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
• Max # of PCI Express Lanes16

[lmeneses]

24 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

I found this on the Intel site, that is why I was wondering:

• PCI Express Configurations ^‡Up to 1x16, 2x8, 1x8+2x4
• Max # of PCI Express Lanes16

Hm, interesting, can you send me da link?

 

[Marziin111]

6 hours ago, lmeneses said:

Hm, interesting, can you send me da link?

https://ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4-70-GHz-

[lmeneses]

14 minutes ago, Marziin111 said:

https://ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4-70-GHz-

Oh, yea, no that is pretty irrelevant, as it is in the processor graphics section, which, if you are using a gpu, is pointless