What Ryzen to use to "proxy" for a console?

[Mindstab Thrull]

So I've nearly got my living room computer built. I'm down to needing the CPU and the PSU at this point. At this point I'm at 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
Motherboard	Asus - ROG STRIX X470-I GAMING Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$255.62 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$80.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX6000 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$64.99 @ Canada Computers
Case	Fractal Design - Core 500 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$80.99 @ PC-Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$482.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-16 21:19 EST-0500

Trying to decide which Ryzen CPU to use, thinking of going with the 2400. Plan on adding a dedicated GPU later but I want decent gaming performance out of the box. Any suggestions?

I do also plan on adding a mechanical hard drive for storage as well as an optical drive (and a second stick of memory) eventually, but realistically I can't imagine this thing pulling more than 500W, probably less than 400. Are higher 80 PLUS ratings actually worth it at that point, or am I spending more on Gold than I really need to? 

[PineyCreek]

If you have to build now, yeah, go with the 2400.  If not, then wait and get a dedicated card and a non-APU.  PLUS ratings only matter in terms maybe saving a bit of money in the long run.  Are you keeping this on 24/7?  Maybe efficiency will matter more to you at that point.  Bronze is probably all you need.  On the PSU I would focus on buying a quality part moreso than the 80 plus ratings, something from the top tiers of the PSU tier lists.

[Mindstab Thrull]

On 11/16/2018 at 9:32 PM, PineyCreek said:

If you have to build now, yeah, go with the 2400.  If not, then wait and get a dedicated card and a non-APU.  PLUS ratings only matter in terms maybe saving a bit of money in the long run.  Are you keeping this on 24/7?  Maybe efficiency will matter more to you at that point.  Bronze is probably all you need.  On the PSU I would focus on buying a quality part moreso than the 80 plus ratings, something from the top tiers of the PSU tier lists.

Thanks, went and picked it up this weekend.

My primary local computer shop is Canada Computers. If I'm just looking for a fairly low-wattage PSU (say 500W is probably more than I need) at Bronze, do you have a specific recommendation (or a couple)? I don't know PSU's well enough to be able to tell which PSU I should grab just by reading the table.

[brob]

Corsair CX450M or Cooler Master Masterwatt 450 are good, budget psu. If you are buying from Canada Computers the CX450M is at https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_442&item_id=096571. I did not see a listing for the 450W Masterwatt.

 

[Mindstab Thrull]

10 minutes ago, brob said:

Corsair CX450M or Cooler Master Masterwatt 450 are good, budget psu. If you are buying from Canada Computers the CX450M is at https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_442&item_id=096571. I did not see a listing for the 450W Masterwatt.

 

Closest I see is the 500W MasterWatt at https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_33_1238_442&item_id=109057
Though the 600W seems to be the same price at this point? https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=569_33_1238_442&item_id=109062

 

All three seem to be the same price currently - $70 each. Considering the 600W and the 500W are the same price, I guess it's between the 600W Masterwatt and the CX450M. Apart from the extra wattage headroom (not necessary for this build), is there any reason to take the Masterwatt over the Corsair?

[seon123]

10 minutes ago, Mindstab Thrull said:

MasterWatt

That's the Masterwatt Lite. It's completely different from the Masterwatt. The Masterwatt is a decent budget PSU, the Masterwatt Lite is crap.

There's also a Bronze efficiency Masterwatt MWE, a Gold efficiency Masterwatt MWE, a Masterwatt Maker, a Masterwatt Maker MIJ, and a possibly cancelled Masterwatt V. Just because Cooler Master likes being confusing,  like EVGA. 

[Mindstab Thrull]

Erk, ok. So in that case I should stick with the CX450M instead. That helps a lot.

As that's about $70, if there's one that's not much more expensive and happens to be on sale when I go to pick it up, which one should I be looking for?

[brob]

If you are into mail-in rebates https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_443&item_id=105121 is an excellent buy at the moment. Without the mail-in rebate it is still a good deal.

 

[Mindstab Thrull]

1 minute ago, brob said:

If you are into mail-in rebates https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_1238_443&item_id=105121 is an excellent buy at the moment. Without the mail-in rebate it is still a good deal.

 

I don't count MIR's myself because sometimes there's a lot of difficulty actually getting it properly processed from what I've seen. I'm also probably looking at a couple more weeks before I pick it up, so if it's on sale then I should be good (it'll also be closer to Christmas so that might help).

In case it got missed, here's the chassis in question: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/LvnG3C/fractal-design-case-fdcacore500bk