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1080 Ti ROG strix vs zotac amp extreme core?

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4 hours ago, Dversity said:

I want to thank you in advance that you've helped me this much! Very very much appreciated. :) 

 

I ran DDU again, in safe mode this time. Got much more stable results and it wont crash when I OC it to 1972mhz. My temps while gaming are between 65-72c. I've put a pretty aggressive fun curve just to test if it helps. I even tried to force 100% fan speed and achieve 2000+ mhz clocks but it wont let me. Looks like the silicon lottery got me this time or something. The O11G chips might be binned for all I know. 

 

My idle temps were around 25-35c on the O11G card, so I'd like to believe that my airflow isnt the problem. The 11G card that I have now sits at 1493mhz even while idle, while the O11G clocked itself even lower to keep the temps down or something.

 

I find it quite annoying that the O11G card clocked itself to 2000mhz stock, without doing ANY manual overclocking, while the 11G card they sent me goes max 1798mhz. I do believe that 200mhz will affect my fps by a little atleast. I just wrote a mail to the company that sent me this replacement card and told them that its not acceptable.

 

well again, the O11G boosts to 2000MHz because that's the way Asus set the base clock frequency at the factory. They could have done the same thing to the 11G card but either the silicon wasn't up to snuff or they wanted to have a seperate "Factory OC" SKU. What I find puzzling is that the card doesn't idle down to 300MHz. Do you have a program running in the background that uses some GPU power? That would be the only reason I can think of that the idle speed of the card to be at 1493MHz is that it's not REALLY idle...

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Hey,

 

I've RMA'd my 1080 Ti rog strix. They say that they didnt have strix cards left, so they shipped me the Zotac 1080 Ti Amp Extreme Core. Is this a huge loss for me? I've read that the OC possibilities are limited, so the rog strix is better overall. Even though the amp extreme has better base clock speeds. 

 

https://www.komplett.no/product/920590/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/zotac-geforce-gtx1080ti-amp-extreme-core# this is the card they shipped me

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a GP102 is a GP102. They all pretty much act the same regardless of what the manufacturer does as a base clock.

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Ok so they replaced my 1080 Ti ROG strix gaming with another card thats supposed to be the same. 

 

The old card that died on me boosts itself to 2050mhz while the new card I just received only boosts itself to 1878 without any overclocking. 

 

https://www.komplett.no/product/917604/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/asus-geforce-gtx-1080ti-rog-strix-gaming#

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https://www.komplett.no/product/917194#

 

If you check the specifications on those two cards, you can see both the boost clock and base clocks are different. Why is that? 

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Ok so they replaced my 1080 Ti ROG strix gaming with another card thats supposed to be the same. 

 

The old card that died on me boosts itself to 2050mhz while the new card I just received only boosts itself to 1878 without any overclocking. 

 

https://www.komplett.no/product/917604/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/asus-geforce-gtx-1080ti-rog-strix-gaming#

vs

https://www.komplett.no/product/917194#

 

If you check the specifications on those two cards, you can see both the boost clock and base clocks are different. Why is that? 

factory overclock. It's more like a factory overclock preset because you can overclock the new card to 2050 no problem. i've done that with with my reference card. Like I said, a GP102 is a GP102. They all behave the same.

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The games crash when I'm going OCing it above 1970mhz. Can't go over 2000mhz whatsoever. I havent adjusted the voltage though

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The games crash when I'm going OCing it above 1970mhz. Can't go over 2000mhz whatsoever. I havent adjusted the voltage though

CRANK EVERYTHING.

 

Voltage MAX

Power target MAX

Temp target MAX

Core +150

Mem +300

Fan Curve set to aggressive

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do you use afterburner?

I've used in the past, very familiar with it.

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Can't seem to reach close to 2k mhz whatsoever. Tried using afterburner, precision x and gpu tweak ii. cant adjust core voltage on precision x and afterburner. 

 

Any pro tips?

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Can't seem to reach close to 2k mhz whatsoever. Tried using afterburner, precision x and gpu tweak ii. cant adjust core voltage on precision x and afterburner. 

 

Any pro tips?

Pretty sure you need to unlock it in the settings menu in Afterburner.

 

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2 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

Pretty sure you need to unlock it in the settings menu in Afterburner.

 

Thatk did it, thanks! Should I just push it to 100% also?

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Can't go past +160. Its pretty much only stable at 1950, and not above that. :/ 

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Actually. I found out that PUBG etc. crashes at stock settings also. Might be the old drivers thats fucking it up. I changed from 780 to 1080 ti and didnt reinstall windows. 

 

Reinstalling PC tomorrow to see if that helps. :)

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Thatk did it, thanks! Should I just push it to 100% also?

Yes.

57 minutes ago, Dversity said:

also my idle temps are around 49-55c. Isnt that quite high? 

yes & no. Depends on your airflow through the case and ambiant temperature. should be around 30C. I bet your load temps are quite high, which could explain why you are unable to boost past 2000MHz.

7 minutes ago, Dversity said:

I changed from 780 to 1080 ti and didnt reinstall windows. 

You shouldn't need to. The Geforce driver is what you need. Use DDU to uninstall the old drivers, and download JUST THE DRIVER from Nvidia's website. You do not want GeForce Experience.

 

Display Driver Uninstaller - https://www.guru3d.com/files-tags/download-ddu.html

NVidia Geforce Drivers - https://www.geforce.com/drivers

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12 hours ago, knightslugger said:

Yes.

yes & no. Depends on your airflow through the case and ambiant temperature. should be around 30C. I bet your load temps are quite high, which could explain why you are unable to boost past 2000MHz.

You shouldn't need to. The Geforce driver is what you need. Use DDU to uninstall the old drivers, and download JUST THE DRIVER from Nvidia's website. You do not want GeForce Experience.

 

Display Driver Uninstaller - https://www.guru3d.com/files-tags/download-ddu.html

NVidia Geforce Drivers - https://www.geforce.com/drivers

I want to thank you in advance that you've helped me this much! Very very much appreciated. :) 

 

I ran DDU again, in safe mode this time. Got much more stable results and it wont crash when I OC it to 1972mhz. My temps while gaming are between 65-72c. I've put a pretty aggressive fun curve just to test if it helps. I even tried to force 100% fan speed and achieve 2000+ mhz clocks but it wont let me. Looks like the silicon lottery got me this time or something. The O11G chips might be binned for all I know. 

 

My idle temps were around 25-35c on the O11G card, so I'd like to believe that my airflow isnt the problem. The 11G card that I have now sits at 1493mhz even while idle, while the O11G clocked itself even lower to keep the temps down or something.

 

I find it quite annoying that the O11G card clocked itself to 2000mhz stock, without doing ANY manual overclocking, while the 11G card they sent me goes max 1798mhz. I do believe that 200mhz will affect my fps by a little atleast. I just wrote a mail to the company that sent me this replacement card and told them that its not acceptable.

 

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I want to thank you in advance that you've helped me this much! Very very much appreciated. :) 

 

I ran DDU again, in safe mode this time. Got much more stable results and it wont crash when I OC it to 1972mhz. My temps while gaming are between 65-72c. I've put a pretty aggressive fun curve just to test if it helps. I even tried to force 100% fan speed and achieve 2000+ mhz clocks but it wont let me. Looks like the silicon lottery got me this time or something. The O11G chips might be binned for all I know. 

 

My idle temps were around 25-35c on the O11G card, so I'd like to believe that my airflow isnt the problem. The 11G card that I have now sits at 1493mhz even while idle, while the O11G clocked itself even lower to keep the temps down or something.

 

I find it quite annoying that the O11G card clocked itself to 2000mhz stock, without doing ANY manual overclocking, while the 11G card they sent me goes max 1798mhz. I do believe that 200mhz will affect my fps by a little atleast. I just wrote a mail to the company that sent me this replacement card and told them that its not acceptable.

 

well again, the O11G boosts to 2000MHz because that's the way Asus set the base clock frequency at the factory. They could have done the same thing to the 11G card but either the silicon wasn't up to snuff or they wanted to have a seperate "Factory OC" SKU. What I find puzzling is that the card doesn't idle down to 300MHz. Do you have a program running in the background that uses some GPU power? That would be the only reason I can think of that the idle speed of the card to be at 1493MHz is that it's not REALLY idle...

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22 hours ago, knightslugger said:

well again, the O11G boosts to 2000MHz because that's the way Asus set the base clock frequency at the factory. They could have done the same thing to the 11G card but either the silicon wasn't up to snuff or they wanted to have a seperate "Factory OC" SKU. What I find puzzling is that the card doesn't idle down to 300MHz. Do you have a program running in the background that uses some GPU power? That would be the only reason I can think of that the idle speed of the card to be at 1493MHz is that it's not REALLY idle...

Thank you very much for all your help <3! I just got to pick whatever card I wanted and pay the difference. Going for a 2080 card. 

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