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In the process of chosing a new keyboard

Barnack
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Hi,

i was looking for a new keyboard with the following criteria:

  • ISO italian layout 
  • reprogrammable key (without using third party .ahk scripts i mean). I valued less having additional macro keys without chance to reconfigure default keys. (ofc having both would be amazing)
  • IF there is backlight, i see no point in having it when keycaps don't have transparent letters. I'd use the light to show keys in the dark, not to have fancy distracting stuff under my nose.
  • possibly membrane, but since some get more costy than cheap mechanical, and market-wise mechanical ones are considered more valuable, i took into account some mechanical too.
  • full 105 layout with all keys, no compact stuff
  • 70€ is already costy to me for a keyboard

Now, i had to discard all the "cheap" mechanical ones because most of them use compact formats, and the few survivors only come with "clicky" switches, which i really can't understand why people love so much.

Now here's a list of the keyboards i checked

NAME             PRICE    SWITCH  MACRO KEYS   REPROG. KEYS  USEFUL-BACKLIGHT   PER-KEY-COLOR
Trust GXT 285    <30€>    <memb>  <yes>         no            no                 no
Razer Cynosa      68€     <memb>   no          <yes>         <yes>              <yes>
Skiller SGK4     <30€>    <memb>   no          <yes>         <yes>               no
Klim Chroma      <30€>    <memb>   no           no           <yes>              <yes>
Klim Domination   60€      blue    no           no           <yes>              <yes>
Corsair K55       80€     <memb>  <yes>         ?            <yes>               no

Now my opinions on each

  • Trust GXT 285: pointless backlight, can't change keys functions although macro buttons reduce the issue. Seems overly huge with all the decorative corners though, plus i've seen reviews about keys being messed up without too much usage.
  • Klim Chroma: they put too much effort on lightshows without taking care about actual quality of life features (like keys remapping/macros). I love the "no useless software" philosophy of klim, but that's a bit too little.
  • Klim Domination: i thought about it just because it costs less than some membrane keyboards i was looking at (of which only cynosa made to the list). But if i'd ever go for a mechanical keyboard, you can bet it's not gonna be one with switches which purpose is making goddamn noise, so that's a no-no.
  • Corsair K55: 80€ for a keyboard that differs from a 30€ one by just having transparent symbols in keycaps? No thanks

 

Finally Razer Cynosa and Skiller SGK4 survived my complex tastes, and while the former seems quite costy to me, i'm worried about the latter being made of reaaaaaaaaaaaaally low quality plastic. We know, there's cheap water bottle quality plastic, and there's Lego plastic which is more expensive than steel (maybe i'm exaggerating but that's the idea xD).

 

So, to anyone into membrane keyboards or anyone who generally used Razer Cynosa and/or Skiller SGK4, which one of the two would you suggest?

Is there any other membrane keyboard within that price range i should take into account that i totally missed? (remember i discarded many because of the lack of ISO italian layout)

Is there any mechanical keyboard within that price range i should take into account with red/silent or whatever the switches that don't mess with my ears are called?

 

I'm used to program in night's quiet, when you can easily hear music at 5% of maximum volume, in that instance even membrane noise is noticeable so don't come up with he "mechanical audio feedback is superior" stuff.

Bonus question: razer keyboard's software used to remap keys changes something in the actual keyboard so you can have remapped keys without having the software actively running on windows, or it just adds a remapping software layer like ahk scripts?

 

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My only recommendation is to NOT spend 68 euros on a membrane keyboard,

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11 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

My only recommendation is to NOT spend 68 euros on a membrane keyboard,

but what about materials quality? are you implying razer cynosa's double price compared with skiller sgk4's is not justified by longer lasting materials?

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I’m saying you can buy a mechanical board for that price

My Build, v2.1 --- CPU: i7-8700K @ 5.2GHz/1.288v || MoBo: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E Gaming || RAM: 4x4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 4 2666 14-14-14-33 || Cooler: Custom Loop || GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC Black, on water || PSU: EVGA G2 850W || Case: Corsair 450D || SSD: 850 Evo 250GB, Intel 660p 2TB || Storage: WD Blue 2TB || G502 & Glorious PCGR Fully Custom 80% Keyboard || MX34VQ, PG278Q, PB278Q

Audio --- Headphones: Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX || Amp: Schiit Audio Magni 3 || DAC: Schiit Audio Modi 3 || Mic: Blue Yeti

 

[Under Construction]

 

My Truck --- 2002 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke || 6-speed

My Car --- 2006 Mustang GT || 5-speed || BBK LTs, O/R X, MBRP Cat-back || BBK Lowering Springs, LCAs || 2007 GT500 wheels w/ 245s/285s

 

The Experiment --- CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.0 GHz || MoBo: Asus P8Z77-V LK || RAM: 16GB Corsair 1600 4x4 || Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo || GPUs: Asus GTX 750 Ti, || PSU: Corsair TX750M Gold || Case: Thermaltake Core G21 TG || SSD: 840 Pro 128GB || HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB

 

R.I.P. Asus X99-A motherboard, April 2016 - October 2018, may you rest in peace. 5820K, if I ever buy you a new board, it'll be a good one.

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11 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

I’m saying you can buy a mechanical board for that price

you missed the fact i don't want a mechanical keyboard unless it has exceptionally silent switches, which happens to cost more than 150€, not 60€.
Unless you can suggest me a full format mechanical keyboard with silent switches and programmable keys, i'm not interested.

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