Android in Audi

[Sidiox]

http://racers-republic.com/technology1223/google-and-german-auto-maker-audi-developing-android-based-in-car-entertainment-and-information-system-4009/

 

I don't see many benefits. 

In 2 years you are stuck with a car that uses an obselete version of Andriod which is plagued by malware. And moar people will focus even less on the road, as Facebook is now integrated in your car! Also hello even more spying, now google knows where you go all the time!

But if they integrate Google Now or whatever it is called then it might be intrestting, and ofcourse google maps which is much better then any tomtom to date.

[ciprian97pop]

probably already posted

 

 

on topic: yeah, remember that not everyone changes their car from two to two years(like we do with ourphones), and keeping in mind that we drive cars even 10-15 years old, try to think how it will be over 8-10 years using that car

[Bingbing10]

this will only be implemented ( if at all) into one car model and then they will test it out to see if its successful and if it isnt then they will not add it to other models in their range.

[Sidiox]

probably already posted

 

 

on topic: yeah, remember that not everyone changes their car from two to two years(like we do with ourphones), and keeping in mind that we drive cars even 10-15 years old, try to think how it will be over 8-10 years using that car

The article is just from today and I saw nothing in the news feed... Lets hope I was right

 

My father just bought a new car after having his old one for nearly 15 years, I don't really see Andriod being that usefull in cars in 8-10 years , we have new stuff then....

And the same with phone companies it probs doesn't support ANdriod updates..

[BalloonZaptor]

Are you mispelling android? Or am I going insane?

[Sidiox]

Are you mispelling android? Or am I going insane

Going insane (quickly edited my title)

[BalloonZaptor]

Going insane (quickly edited my title)

[tryagain1990]

It's unlikely this will be full android as we have it on our phones and tablets so the hardware requirements are not as much and won't be obsolete as quickly. Don't expect to have the Play Store and be able to install your games, etc. It's an ICE (In Car Entertainment) system using a stripped down version of android. It will probably come with Google Maps, Play Music, Google Now, Reversing Camera, and ways to interface with the car computer.

[Homicidium]

I don't see many problems with this. It's not like it's something new, Sidiox

 

 

 

In 2 years you are stuck with a car that uses an obselete version of Andriod

 

Am I right with the assumption, that you mean, that the car will have an outdated version of Android? If so, then this concern is nothing to worry about. The car will need to have some sort of a link to a server, which is probably also going to download updates and upgrades to the internal system. 

 

 

 

 

And moar people will focus even less on the road

I don't know who, BMW or Mercedes, but one of them is already using a "Social Hub" in their navigation systems. To prevent people from using this while driving, they disable said functions like web browsing, social media while you're driving. I'm 100% sure, that Audi will impliment a similar system to prevent further distractions. 

 

 

 

now google knows where you go all the time!

I can assure you, that Google has it's ways to get this information without you even knowing. Have you ever read through the things an App, like Facebook or WhatsApp, can access on your mobile phone? You don't seem too concerned about your informations anyways, so having this functionality in the car won't make it any worse really. 

[Sidiox]

I don't see many problems with this. It's not like it's something new, Sidiox

 

 

 

 

Am I right with the assumption, that you mean, that the car will have an outdated version of Android? If so, then this concern is nothing to worry about. The car will need to have some sort of a link to a server, which is probably also going to download updates and upgrades to the internal system. 

 

 

 

 

I don't know who, BMW or Mercedes, but one of them is already using a "Social Hub" in their navigation systems. To prevent people from using this while driving, they disable said functions like web browsing, social media while you're driving. I'm 100% sure, that Audi will impliment a similar system to prevent further distractions. 

 

 

 

I can assure you, that Google has it's ways to get this information without you even knowing. Have you ever read through the things an App, like Facebook or WhatsApp, can access on your mobile phone? You don't seem too concerned about your informations anyways, so having this functionality in the car won't make it any worse really. 

I know it is not something completely new, we have had digital systems in cars for a long time, but untill now each manufacturer has only used their own piece of software, Android on the other hand is big and common (which do is a good thing). I wouldn't be so sure about the prevention of distractions though, although voice control itself might be a good improvement, instead of having to focus on your device you just change the radio station by voice and tell the navigation system where you are going. 

I know google is getting much info already, but I don't have a 3g connection nor any Andriod device, and you can turn 3g off on the go, while this car could sent more stuff like this, it is just even more info to base advertisement on. I might not be that concerned but that doesn't mean that I like this stuff.

[Homicidium]

I know it is not something completely new, we have had digital systems in cars for a long time, but untill now each manufacturer has only used their own piece of software, Android on the other hand is big and common (which do is a good thing). I wouldn't be so sure about the prevention of distractions though, although voice control itself might be a good improvement, instead of having to focus on your device you just change the radio station by voice and tell the navigation system where you are going. 

I know google is getting much info already, but I don't have a 3g connection nor any Andriod device, and you can turn 3g off on the go, while this car could sent more stuff like this, it is just even more info to base advertisement on. I might not be that concerned but that doesn't mean that I like this stuff.

 

The biggest reason, why Audi probably has decided to work with Google is costs. Coding and developing software costs money, and having already an OS to build upon on saves a big chunk of the costs. 

And I can assure you, that this "system" that has been implimented, works. Why shouldn't it? I dare to say, that it is fairly easy to tell the system to block any apps, that could potentially distract the driver, once the car is moving. 

And in terms of information, I don't think you would be giving away much more information than you already do. GPS is just a signal as any other, which can be traced and recorded, and you're using this in your standard navigation system.

Please tell me, which information could be extracted, that isn't already able to be recorded/extracted from your phone or computer? Again, I don't see your point in why this is so much worse. I'm not saying, that it's good, but it's not that it's a whole new dimesion of a threat. We've been very graciously giving away our data for decades now, and all of a sudden this does matter, just because something like this gets implimented in our car? 

[Sidiox]

The biggest reason, why Audi probably has decided to work with Google is costs. Coding and developing software costs money, and having already an OS to build upon on saves a big chunk of the costs. 

And I can assure you, that this "system" that has been implimented, works. Why shouldn't it? I dare to say, that it is fairly easy to tell the system to block any apps, that could potentially distract the driver, once the car is moving. 

And in terms of information, I don't think you would be giving away much more information than you already do. GPS is just a signal as any other, which can be traced and recorded, and you're using this in your standard navigation system.

Please tell me, which information could be extracted, that isn't already able to be recorded/extracted from your phone or computer? Again, I don't see your point in why this is so much worse. I'm not saying, that it's good, but it's not that it's a whole new dimesion of a threat. We've been very graciously giving away our data for decades now, and all of a sudden this does matter, just because something like this gets implimented in our car? 

I can understand why they use Andriod, ofcourse the adjusting is easier and its something people are already used too, I only think that is a good thing. And yes they could block apps and such, and there are indeed benefits, but it is all just the question IF they are gonna block it, to be fair we don't have enough info yet to really judge their implemtation and my dislike is a bit pre-mature. And yes we have been giving away loads of info (I dont really care about that, it happens), but using a system like ANdriod only makes it easier for them to do it, and as it is Android, Google can use the data to make more intrusive ads, which they previously couldn't do, for example; they notice your car goes a lot to say the Mac, suddenly you get loads of food ads or you travel long distances with the car, airplane ads (just examples). And the NSA could get it anyway, but now it is just easier and more accesable to addcompanies. 

[Homicidium]

I can understand why they use Andriod, ofcourse the adjusting is easier and its something people are already used too, I only think that is a good thing. And yes they could block apps and such, and there are indeed benefits, but it is all just the question IF they are gonna block it, to be fair we don't have enough info yet to really judge their implemtation and my dislike is a bit pre-mature. And yes we have been giving away loads of info (I dont really care about that, it happens), but using a system like ANdriod only makes it easier for them to do it, and as it is Android, Google can use the data to make more intrusive ads, which they previously couldn't do, for example; they notice your car goes a lot to say the Mac, suddenly you get loads of food ads or you travel long distances with the car, airplane ads (just examples). And the NSA could get it anyway, but now it is just easier and more accesable to addcompanies. 

 

Oh, they better block the apps while driving, otherwise this could backfire rather quick, especially in the US. You may remember the case, where a woman sued McDonals for millions and WON, because she scalded her hand on a coffee, because the cup didn't say that the coffee "may be hot", another thing you will notice with cars from american brands (Chevrolet for example) it says in the side mirrors that "May appear closer than they are", this is all precaution to say them from getting their asses sued. And just imagine someone in an Audi crashes, because he used the in - car social media hub, because it wasn't blocked while driving? He sues their buts for compensation, because it didn't say that "Checking FB while driving was dangerous". Know what I mean? 

 

And I am almost 100% sure, that you wont have any adds in the in - car apps. You cannot compare such a system with a phone or a tablet, which will have connectivity to the Play Store. You won't be able to simply download any app. You will have your standard apps from Google (Google Music, Google Maps, Google Drive, etc.) and maybe social media like Facebook and Twitter and maybe a Chrome as a browser, and that's about it. 

But either way, intiuitive advertising is a thing in the marketing industry for a very long time now, ever noticed that weirdly Amazon displays deals of things you've searched in Google or your online shop? This is, again, nothing new and is being utilized for a long time now. There are even now billboards at a bus stop for example, that can recognise if you're a boy or a girl and can display an ad aimed towards either of the gender. Yes, technology *mind blown*  

[Covalent]

If society is going to go the route of having tablet-like devices in cars, then I think having a dock for a tablet would be a much better idea.

[Sidiox]

If society is going to go the route of having tablet-like devices in cars, then I think having a dock for a tablet would be a much better idea.

I agree, but compatibilty is gonna be a bitch and I would hate to see Apple only cars

[Homicidium]

I agree, but compatibilty is gonna be a bitch and I would hate to see Apple only cars

 

iOS cars? I can see that only with these brands like Fisker, which are pretty much bankrupt, or Tesla.  

Android is a much better choice her though, simply because you can skin them and modify it so much, that you probably won't even notice, that it's an Android based system. 

[xRAGExSounDxRIOTX]

Already posted.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/95700-google-and-audi-are-working-together-on-in-car-android/?hl=%2Bandroid+%2Baudi

[Sidiox]

iOS cars? I can see that only with these brands like Fisker, which are pretty much bankrupt, or Tesla.

Android is a much better choice her though, simply because you can skin them and modify it so much, that you probably won't even notice, that it's an Android based system. 

Yeah but there are sooo many different Android tablets you couldn't possibly make a fitting dock for all, maybe just a USB plug, but then you also need a companion app...

 

 

Oh, they better block the apps while driving, otherwise this could backfire rather quick, especially in the US. You may remember the case, where a woman sued McDonals for millions and WON, because she scalded her hand on a coffee, because the cup didn't say that the coffee "may be hot", another thing you will notice with cars from american brands (Chevrolet for example) it says in the side mirrors that "May appear closer than they are", this is all precaution to say them from getting their asses sued. And just imagine someone in an Audi crashes, because he used the in - car social media hub, because it wasn't blocked while driving? He sues their buts for compensation, because it didn't say that "Checking FB while driving was dangerous". Know what I mean? 

 

And I am almost 100% sure, that you wont have any adds in the in - car apps. You cannot compare such a system with a phone or a tablet, which will have connectivity to the Play Store. You won't be able to simply download any app. You will have your standard apps from Google (Google Music, Google Maps, Google Drive, etc.) and maybe social media like Facebook and Twitter and maybe a Chrome as a browser, and that's about it. 

But either way, intiuitive advertising is a thing in the marketing industry for a very long time now, ever noticed that weirdly Amazon displays deals of things you've searched in Google or your online shop? This is, again, nothing new and is being utilized for a long time now. There are even now billboards at a bus stop for example, that can recognise if you're a boy or a girl and can display an ad aimed towards either of the gender. Yes, technology *mind blown*

Yeah theyll probs block apps being used, but again that remains to be seen...

Regarding adds, as long as you are logged in on your car the data will also share to your other devices so that is where the ads occur (and maybe even in car adds we'll see) and again I know it happens already, but this just gives more information and easier info... ANd it is harder to stop from happening (just remember all the fuzz about the LG TV's sharing info and those didn't even run Andriod)....

[Sidiox]

Already posted.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/95700-google-and-audi-are-working-together-on-in-car-android/?hl=%2Bandroid+%2Baudi

 

Dammit, sorry