is this a good build?

[iLostMyXbox21]

for 340$

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor	$98.69 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$63.98 @ Newegg Business
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$57.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	ASRock - Radeon RX 550 - 512 2GB Phantom Gaming Video Card	$70.00
Power Supply	Thermaltake - Smart 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$19.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$340.65
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$310.65
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-05 07:33 EDT-0400

okay.. i have somebody who offered me an RX 550 for $70. i do not expect mail in rebates to work. my main question is, 

 

will the 2200g and the rx 550 get GOOD frames on modern games (pubg, fortnite, fallout, rainbow six siege, etc) on medium-low settings. on my games, i will only have textures on high and 3d resolution all the way up. other than that i will keep everything medium-low. should this run modern AAA games at least 30 fps while recording? 

 

i am am planning these upgrades soon:

switch out 2200g for a Ryzen 5 2400g

add 120gb SSD

upgrade to an rx 580 (or rx 6xx when that series starts)

add another 8gb stick of ram

capture card

 

the pc will be used mainly for recording CSGO, Fortnite, some (maybe) pubg, emulating android (maybe), editing videos with either vegas pro 15 or adobe after affects. 

 

anyways..

 

is this good? or should i spend an extra 40$ and change out the 2200g for a 2400g?

[Turretgaming]

try to use an ssd or a hybrid drive at the very least cause your load times will be horrible with the hard drive. try a cheap SSD at least 120GB and then a hard drive for bigger games that wont fit on the ssd cause using both is great but a HDD is just too slow now a days. I sell computers at staples and the systems there are around the same price have either a 120GB or 256GB ssd as the only drive or a 60G to 120GB ssd with a 500GB to 1TB HDD in the same pc. SSDs are mainstream and kinda needed now. also that ram is fast but the timings are lose. Try to overclock it with 3000mghz and 15,15,15,32 or 3000mghz 14,14,14,30 otherwise bump up the frequency and keep the timings the same cause ryzen loves ram speed 

[iLostMyXbox21]

2 minutes ago, Turretgaming said:

try to use an ssd or a hybrid drive at the very least cause your load times will be horrible with the hard drive. try a cheap SSD at least 120GB and then a hard drive for bigger games that wont fit on the ssd cause using both is great but a HDD is just too slow now a days. I sell computers at staples and the systems there are around the same price have either a 120GB or 256GB ssd as the only drive or a 60G to 120GB ssd with a 500GB to 1TB HDD in the same pc. SSDs are mainstream and kinda needed now. also that ram is fast but the timings are lose. Try to overclock it with 3000mghz and 15,15,15,32 or 3000mghz 14,14,14,30 otherwise bump up the frequency and keep the timings the same cause ryzen loves ram speed 

i already know i need an SSD, i will add that in later. but i do not mind the boot time. i have been booting with an HDD my whole life. so i’m used to it. but i will be using an SSD soon.

[Herman Mcpootis]

21 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

for 340$

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor	$98.69 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$63.98 @ Newegg Business
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$57.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	ASRock - Radeon RX 550 - 512 2GB Phantom Gaming Video Card	$70.00
Power Supply	Thermaltake - Smart 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$19.99 @ Newegg

you're better off just using the iGPU than the RX550 seeing as the performance is about the same with a 3000mhz kit. psu isn't good, spend a couple bucks more on a corsair CX.

[iLostMyXbox21]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

you're better off just using the iGPU than the RX550 seeing as the performance is about the same with a 3000mhz kit. psu isn't good, spend a couple bucks more on a corsair CX.

but.. 

[iLostMyXbox21]

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

you're better off just using the iGPU than the RX550 seeing as the performance is about the same with a 3000mhz kit. psu isn't good, spend a couple bucks more on a corsair CX.

but yeah i will switch out the PSU. is there a specific model i should look at or just a Corsair CX?

 

edit: is this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hkwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020102na

[Turretgaming]

5 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

i already know i need an SSD, i will add that in later. but i do not mind the boot time. i have been booting with an HDD my whole life. so i’m used to it. but i will be using an SSD soon.

ok well swapping to an ssd means making a new os drive and loading it again like new so you might be better off getting an ssd now and adding the hdd after cause it will be easier that way

[seon123]

1 minute ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

but.. 

How about checking with a credible source? Userbenchmark is useless. 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3261-r3-2200g-r5-2400g-review-gaming-benchmarks-vs-gt-1030

1 minute ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

but yeah i will switch out the PSU. is there a specific model i should look at or just a Corsair CX?

 

edit: is this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hkwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020102na

The CX450 is already plenty. Most RX 580s have a single 8 pin PCIe connector, so it should be fine. 

[Turretgaming]

2 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

but yeah i will switch out the PSU. is there a specific model i should look at or just a Corsair CX?

 

edit: is this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hkwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020102na

any thing corsair or evga or seasonic or something name brand and some form of 80+ as it was tested and rated

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

but.. 

 

userbenchmark lumps data from PCs that use slower and/or single channel ram with those that run faster dual channel kits, you get a massive difference with ram speeds and bandwidth when using the iGPU.

it's 20% lower now but you can overclock the iGPU to perform similarly, so the $70 for the RX550 isn't worth it.

[iLostMyXbox21]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

How about checking with a credible source? Userbenchmark is useless. 

so should the vega 8 run r6 at 30+ fps medium settings while recording? also, can it render an animation, does it work for game development, and can i render an edited video too?

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

but yeah i will switch out the PSU. is there a specific model i should look at or just a Corsair CX?

the coolermaster masterwatt is also good if it's similarly priced.

[iLostMyXbox21]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

you can overclock the iGPU to perform similarly,

i don’t feel comfortable overclocking. i am not the best with computers an i still have a lot to run. also, i do not want to do anything that will void my warranty until the warranty expires, just in case something happens

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, Turretgaming said:

any thing corsair or evga or seasonic or something name brand and some form of 80+ as it was tested and rated

all brands sell crap power supplies and 80 efficiency rating means nothing in quality, stop recommending based by brand.

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, iLostMyXbox21 said:

i don’t feel comfortable overclocking. i am not the best with computers an i still have a lot to run. also, i do not want to do anything that will void my warranty until the warranty expires, just in case something happens

it's as simple as moving the sliders on AMD's ryzen master utility, not going crazy with the overclocks and testing it to see if it's stable. they won't be able to tell if you've overclocked the CPU at all unless you tell them yourself.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1579-overclocking-guide-ryzen-3-2200g/

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, Turretgaming said:

any thing corsair or evga or seasonic or something name brand and some form of 80+ as it was tested and rated

All of those companies have crappy PSUs. Corsair has the VS, EVGA has a billion crappy ones, and Seasonic has the S12 II/M12 II. The 80+ certification is useless for assessing whether or not a PSU is crap. It just means it meets some efficiency targets. 

3 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

so should the vega 8 run r6 at 30+ fps medium settings while recording? also, can it render an animation, does it work for game development, and can i render an edited video too?

It should be able to run the game at those settings and framerate at 1080p. Recording might not work well, but that's due to the CPU part. Adding a GPU won't help with that. The 2400G will perform better for that. 

Rendering works on any CPU, it's just that the tile it takes that varies. Same for compiling code. 

[iLostMyXbox21]

7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

It should be able to run the game at those settings and framerate at 1080p. Recording might not work well

well should it run CSGO medium settings 1080p while recording? i’m gonna save up for a capture card.. but with the 2200g. what graphics card do you recommend?

[seon123]

50 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

well should it run CSGO medium settings 1080p while recording? i’m gonna save up for a capture card.. but with the 2200g. what graphics card do you recommend?

Should be fine.

With the 2200G, use the iGPU. If you want a higher end system, get an RX 570 level GPU. Adding a GPU with the same performance as the iGPU won't help a bit, and is just a waste of money. 

[MandoPanda]

Honestly if I were you, I'd save up a little more and get something like this to start:

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Patriot - Signature Line 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.93 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $420.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-07 10:29 EDT-0400

Doesn't make much sense to get a Ryzen 3 now and then upgrade it to a Ryzen 5 shortly after. You will be fine with the integrated graphics on these Ryzen chips. You can overclock, believe in yourself. It's SUPER easy now-a-days. Upgrading to an SSD is always a good idea. If you need the PC right away, you can start with low end stuff and upgrade later, but if you can be patient and save up a little more you can get a better rig to start so you don't have to deal with selling hardware and such later on.

 

Here's a rig that I would recommend you save up for, but it's up to you.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($139.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ B&H) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $668.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-07 10:33 EDT-0400