Dell or Aoc?

[ytho]

https://www.newegg.com/global/pl/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-0004-00551&cm_re=monitor-_-0JC-0004-00551-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/global/pl/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAD6H6R49274&cm_re=monitor-_-24-160-315-_-Product

Which one would you choose for mainly FPS gaming, but also for gaming in general?
Any experiences with dell or aoc? 

[wojtepanik]

one is freesync  one  is g sync, depends on your gpu

[GoldenLag]

do you have an AMD GPU or Nvidia GPU? because that is the only real difference here

[ytho]

Just now, wojtepanik said:

one is freesync  one  is g sync, depends on your gpu

I'm not using any form of sync anyway, so that does not matter to me 

[ytho]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

do you have an AMD GPU or Nvidia GPU? because that is the only real difference here

Nvidia, but im not using any form of sync  And there's no difference in real input lag or colors?

[GoldenLag]

Just now, ytho said:

Nvidia, but im not using any form of sync

get the G sync monitor from dell and use G sync. 

[ytho]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

get the G sync monitor from dell and use G sync. 

But i don't want to use any sync, that leads to microstutter and bigger input lag no matter what form of sync that is

[wojtepanik]

get the dell, I trust this brand 

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

2 minutes ago, ytho said:

But i don't want to use any sync, that leads to microstutter and bigger input lag no matter what form of sync that is

The g sync is automatically on if you have nvidia cards, (same for free sync - amd).

I heard from sales person that AOC produce their own monitors, but I had some colour calibration issue being too bright for some old monitors 

[ytho]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

The g sync is automatically on if you have nvidia cards, (same for free sync - amd).

I heard from sales person that AOC produce their own monitors, but I had some colour calibration issue being too bright for some old monitors 

It is on, but im turning it off always, using sync is defeating the purpose of low input lag. Look at the BenQ Zowie monitors (considered best for pro players) they are not using any form of sync not by accident

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, ytho said:

But i don't want to use any sync, that leads to microstutter and bigger input lag no matter what form of sync that is

never heard of microstutter. that is a new one. the inputlag added from sync tech is to all intents and purposes minescule ot the point of irrelevancy.

 

also you are trading for a picture that will be tearing. something that outweighs the minor dissadvantageses. 

[ytho]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

never heard of microstutter. that is a new one. the inputlag added from sync tech is to all intents and purposes minescule ot the point of irrelevancy.

 

also you are trading for a picture that will be tearing. something that outweighs the minor dissadvantageses. 

There's almost no tearing at 144+ fps. 

[TrigrH]

18 minutes ago, ytho said:

But i don't want to use any sync, that leads to microstutter and bigger input lag no matter what form of sync that is

it doesn't and you will want it on for certain singleplayer games, its a value added feature even if you don't use it all the time.

 

The most lag adaptive sync can add is a single frame. Which is almost impossible to perceive.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

The most lag adaptive sync can add is a single frame. Which is almost impossible to perceive.

and even in the competetive scene isnt all that important. if they were that caring of latency, they would all be using wireless mice as they are faster than wired ones. 

 

7 minutes ago, ytho said:

There's almost no tearing at 144+ fps. 

there is still tearing, and depending on games there will be drops in FPS that will affect how much tearing there is. 

 

i am assuming you also have a wireless mouse since this unnoticable latency affects your gameplay

[ytho]

1 minute ago, TrigrH said:

it doesn't and you will want it on for certain singleplayer games, its a value added feature even if you don't use it all the time.

 

The most lag adaptive sync can add is a single frame. Which is almost impossible to perceive.

I'm not arguing if it does or does not.
G-sync is fine in games with stable fps. If your fps vary, then stutter and input lag is horrible.

[ytho]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

and even in the competetive scene isnt all that important. if they were that caring of latency, they would all be using wireless mice as they are faster than wired ones. 

 

there is still tearing, and depending on games there will be drops in FPS that will affect how much tearing there is. 

 

i am assuming you also have a wireless mouse since this unnoticable latency affects your gameplay

Wireless mouse faster than wired? That's so wrong i don't even know where to start.

[TrigrH]

3 minutes ago, ytho said:

G-sync is fine in games with stable fps. If your fps vary, then stutter and input lag is horrible.

no it wont, unless you drop outside the g-sync range. (sub 30fps).

 

6 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

and even in the competitive scene isnt all that important. if they were that caring of latency, they would all be using wireless mice as they are faster than wired ones. 

in the competitive scene it is important, torn frames show more information and faster than "synced" ones. Those wireless mice are not faster cos they are wireless, they process inputs quicker cos Logitech has put the RnD into better mouse processing, they could but the same tech in a wired mouse, it would be faster.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, ytho said:

Wireless mouse faster than wired? That's so wrong i don't even know where to start.

*Chough *chough logitech gamin mice *chough *chough with heavy investments into competetive scene *chough *chough

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Those wireless mice are not faster cos they are wireless, they process inputs quicker cos Logitech has put the RnD into better mouse processing, they could but the same tech in a wired mouse, it would be faster.

Actually that is assuming they can even push that tech through the USB protocol. So wireless mice are faster due to tech that wireless mouse uses. Therefore wireless mice not faster?

 

Logitech wouldnt invest into the competetive gaming schene if there waskt some merrit behind their claims now would they. 

Edited October 2, 2018 by GoldenLag

[ytho]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

*Chough *chough logitech gamin mice *chough *chough with heavy investments into competetive scene *chough *chough

*Chough* 100's of products, every single one wireless slower than wired *Chough* 1 mouse changes everything *Chough* that even turned out as marketing bullshit *Chough*

[ytho]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Actually that is assuming they can even push that tech through the USB protocol. So wireless mice are faster due to tech that wireless mouse uses. Therefore wireless mice not faster?

 

Logitech wouldnt invest into the competetive gaming schene if there waskt some merrit behind their claims now would they. 

You don't understand. Signal from sensor to transmitter is faster than wired. But signal from transmitter to receiver is damn slower. Overall wireless version is still slower than wired.

[TrigrH]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Actually that is assuming they can ive push thay tech through the USB protocol. So wireless mice are faster due to tech that wireless mouse uses. Therefore wireless mice not faster?

 

Logitech wouldnt invest into the competetive gaming schene if there waskt some merrit behind their claims now would they. 

Wireless mice still use USB. The marketing shows the wireless mice faster than other (non Logitech) wired competitors on the market, not so much against there own new mice.

 

The purpose of those demos was to show that the transmission and processing of a wireless signal is not an input lag bottleneck, not that its actually faster than electrons in a wire lmfao.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, ytho said:

*Chough* 100's of products, every single one wireless slower than wired *Chough* 1 mouse changes everything *Chough* that even turned out as marketing bullshit *Chough*

Gamernexus test seems to disagree. Kek

 

Comparing to razer gaming mice. Unless they are for some reason slower 

 

That is using the g900

 

Also ive never claimed that light through air is faster than electrons through copper/aluminium have i?