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1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Translated: You don't know shit about premium car audio systems.

Coming from you boss, its a bit of stretch. No need to get angry and swear either. 

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Yes, they are. Subs are just worthless. The only thing they do is make more noise than woofers, which even the half way decent ones sold at Wally World get loud enough to hear from the outside of the vehicle with little distortion.

IDK why you're trying to ignore basic physics. Maybe go to high school. 

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Audio is still not a necessity.

No one will buy a car, that's not a sports car, without audio. 

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2 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

IDK why you're trying to ignore basic physics

I'm not. There's a point of diminished returns when it comes to frequency, and subwoofers are WAY past that point. They exist because they push lower frequencies at high volume with less distortion.

 

You're hitting diminishing returns there too. Any street legal vehicle won't have a volume that warrants anything over 8" woofers.

11 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

No one will buy a car, that's not a sports car, without audio

That doesn't make audio a necessity.

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13 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I'm not. There's a point of diminished returns when it comes to frequency, and subwoofers are WAY past that point. They exist because they push lower frequencies at high volume with less distortion.

Well there you go lol, subwoofers exist because they push lower frequencies at high volume with less distortion. Said it yourself. 

13 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

You're hitting diminishing returns there too. Any street legal vehicle won't have a volume that warrants anything over 8" woofers.

IDK where you get this from, but that's not true. 

13 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

That doesn't make audio a necessity.

A car company makes a product to sell. They aren't going to get much from a car with no radio. Nowadays its not whether a car can get you from A to B, its how well it can. No one wants to buy a turd without a radio. 

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30 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

IDK where you get this from, but that's not true.

Yes it is. See, otherwise car manufacturers would offer these subwoofers on premium audio packages.

 

31 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

subwoofers exist because they push lower frequencies at high volume with less distortion. Said it yourself.

That by itself is a meaningless statement. Woofers also push lower frequencies with less distortion, the only "issue" is that they aren't going to go as high a volume. That "issue" is completely irrelevant when 8" woofers can push past the safe hearing threshold without distortion in any street legal vehicle.

 

Automotive subwoofers exist to be obnoxious and to scam idiots.

33 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

A car company makes a product to sell. They aren't going to get much from a car with no radio. Nowadays its not whether a car can get you from A to B, its how well it can. No one wants to buy a turd without a radio. 

Whether it is common or now a "must have" is irrelevant. Audio is a luxury, not a necessity.

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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On 9/28/2018 at 5:25 PM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Don't bother, save up for something decent, even a Civic/Camry would be better

That’s such a baby boomer thing to say! Just buy a Toyota. I am certain that the Mazda is a fine little car. But buy Toyota! It’s better they say...

 

IMHO, if you don’t have much money don’t spend it on useless car upgrades.

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