SLI PCIE spacing problem

[milekita189]

Hi everyone, i am new here and i will be building my new pc soon and i need some help

 

So i decided to get two RTX 2080 TI Msi Gaming X Trio and run them in sli but problem is they are 3 slot cards and on all z370 motherboards cards will be too close to each other (not even one slot space betweene two cards)

 

The only motherboard that could work for my setup is MSI Godlike Gaming but that board is discontinued and no longer available and at about 800$ price way too expensive

 

One solution would be to wait for z390 boards to be released because according to leaks there will be z390 version of MSI godlike gaming motherboard but again i would like to avoid paying 800+$ for motherboard

 

I was also thinking about getting some huge tower case and mounting both gpus below the motherboard at bottom of the case with raiser cables but none of cases i have found would be big enough for that and it would probably look ugly.....

 

Is there any solution to my problem

 

I wasnt concerned about having two gpus "sandwiched" until today i saw video from jayztwocents where he put those 2 gpus in sli and he said without at least one slot space betweene gpus top gpu instantly hits about 85 celsius at 100% fan speed and that was on testbench, i imagine it would only be worse in case and im afraid of thermal thorttling (noise is not that big of deal for me but thermal thorttling is)

 

Thanks in advance

[TheNaitsyrk]

7 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

Hi everyone, i am new here and i will be building my new pc soon and i need some help

 

So i decided to get two RTX 2080 TI Msi Gaming X Trio and run them in sli but problem is they are 3 slot cards and on all z370 motherboards cards will be too close to each other (not even one slot space betweene two cards)

 

The only motherboard that could work for my setup is MSI Godlike Gaming but that board is discontinued and no longer available and at about 800$ price way too expensive

 

One solution would be to wait for z390 boards to be released because according to leaks there will be z390 version of MSI godlike gaming motherboard but again i would like to avoid paying 800+$ for motherboard

 

I was also thinking about getting some huge tower case and mounting both gpus below the motherboard at bottom of the case with raiser cables but none of cases i have found would be big enough for that and it would probably look ugly.....

 

Is there any solution to my problem

 

I wasnt concerned about having two gpus "sandwiched" until today i saw video from jayztwocents where he put those 2 gpus in sli and he said without at least one slot space betweene gpus top gpu instantly hits about 85 celsius at 100% fan speed and that was on testbench, i imagine it would only be worse in case and im afraid of thermal thorttling (noise is not that big of deal for me but thermal thorttling is)

 

Thanks in advance

Why would you get two 2080 Tis? Value for money is incredibly terrible. Scaling is horrible, no game out there supports the new "tech" and not many will in the near future. You'll get CPU bottlenecked, and if you want to utilise these cards you need 4K 144hz screen. If you have 3440x1440 screen, single 1080 Ti will be plenty for it. You sure you want to pay £5000 (if you include the screen) to utilise the cards, even though 1080 Ti in SLI can do the exact same thing really?

 

However, when it comes to the question: I was planning to get 2080 TI SLI but I then noticed benchmarks and I decided not to because it was clearly a stupid idea. I went with 1080 TI SLI HYBRIDS, yes water cooled with AIO attached to them, and I paid LESS than for a single 2080 Ti. Sure, I'll lose 25 frames here and there, but at 100+ FPS in each game do I complain? No. Your cards will throttle unless they are hybrids and you can cool them outside the "hot GPU zone". Hybrids will cost even more by the way, or you can hack your own card and put AIO on it like GamersNexus. Not recommended, unless you hate the warranty.

 

EDIT: In the end it's your money of course, but why waste for nothing? Prices might go down later on also, and then you could sell the 1080 TIs you could potentially get instead. I'd also buy used, I bought my 1080 Ti Hybrids used (EVGA ones) so warranty is transferable.

[milekita189]

2 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Why would you get two 2080 Tis? Value for money is incredibly terrible. Scaling is horrible, no game out there supports the new "tech" and not many will in the near future. You'll get CPU bottlenecked, and if you want to utilise these cards you need 4K 144hz screen. If you have 3440x1440 screen, single 1080 Ti will be plenty for it. You sure you want to pay £5000 (if you include the screen) to utilise the cards, even though 1080 Ti in SLI can do the exact same thing really?

 

However, when it comes to the question: I was planning to get 2080 TI SLI but I then noticed benchmarks and I decided not to because it was clearly a stupid idea. I went with 1080 TI SLI HYBRIDS, yes water cooled with AIO attached to them, and I paid LESS than for a single 2080 Ti. Sure, I'll lose 25 frames here and there, but at 100+ FPS in each game do I complain? No. Your cards will throttle unless they are hybrids and you can cool them outside the "hot GPU zone". Hybrids will cost even more by the way, or you can hack your own card and put AIO on it like GamersNexus. Not recommended, unless you hate the warranty.

I am big fan of SLI and i am sure i want to spend that much money on 2 rtx 2080 ti and screen

 

I really like look of this msi gpus thats why i am looking for solution, is there really no option other than installing aio on them?

 

I would mount them somehow with raiser cable but none of tower cases i have found are big enough to fit them.....

[Franck]

14 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

I am big fan of SLI and i am sure i want to spend that much money on 2 rtx 2080 ti and screen

 

I really like look of this msi gpus thats why i am looking for solution, is there really no option other than installing aio on them?

 

I would mount them somehow with raiser cable but none of tower cases i have found are big enough to fit them.....

You are ready to pay for a 3,500$ setup but a 800$ mobo is too much ?

[TheNaitsyrk]

15 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

I am big fan of SLI and i am sure i want to spend that much money on 2 rtx 2080 ti and screen

 

I really like look of this msi gpus thats why i am looking for solution, is there really no option other than installing aio on them?

 

I would mount them somehow with raiser cable but none of tower cases i have found are big enough to fit them.....

Since you like throwing money away, I suggest to void the warranty and add AIOs to them. Good luck.

[milekita189]

2 minutes ago, Franck said:

You are ready to pay for a 3,500$ setup but a 800$ mobo is too much ?

Price is not the only problem, this motherboard is discontinued and its not 100% sure that there will be z390 version of that mobo so thats why im looking for another suitable mobo or other sokution

[milekita189]

5 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Since you like throwing money away, I suggest to void the warranty and add AIOs to them. Good luck.

i might try aio then maybe....

[TheNaitsyrk]

1 minute ago, milekita189 said:

i might try aio then maybe....

Yep, clocks will go down like a truck off the hill if they overheat past 80C.

[SidM]

Heres the thing, you need a space of 4 between the PCIe slots of the 2 cards after which you can get nvlink from Nvidia(and I'm pretty sure even Newegg). Check out jays video, who did the exact same thing as you did

[milekita189]

5 minutes ago, SidM said:

Heres the thing, you need a space of 4 between the PCIe slots of the 2 cards after which you can get nvlink from Nvidia(and I'm pretty sure even Newegg). Check out jays video, who did the exact same thing as you did

Yes, i know that but i cannot find any z370 mobo that has that much space between cards

 

Only board that i found is MSI Godlike Gaming and that one is no longer in production (contacted MSI and they confirmed ti is discontinued) and impossible to find to buy anywhere (especially where i live)

[Mick Naughty]

Sounds like putting water blocks on them would fix this.

[milekita189]

1 minute ago, Mick Naughty said:

Sounds like putting water blocks on them would fix this.

Yes, it would fix it and i might try that in case i dont find any other solution cause i really like the look of their original air cooler.....

 

Best possible option would be to find motherboard that has enough space for them but there is only one z370 mobo with enough space between cards and that one is discontonued

 

I could also sacrifise look of my setup and put both cards on raiser cable and make more space between two cards and mount them somewhere else in tower case but i dont know how to best mount them with raiser cable as it seems that even the huge corsair obsidian 1000d does not have enough space to mount them like that somewhere below or above motherboard

[Mick Naughty]

10 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

Yes, it would fix it and i might try that in case i dont find any other solution cause i really like the look of their original air cooler.....

 

Best possible option would be to find motherboard that has enough space for them but there is only one z370 mobo with enough space between cards and that one is discontonued

 

I could also sacrifise look of my setup and put both cards on raiser cable and make more space between two cards and mount them somewhere else in tower case but i dont know how to best mount them with raiser cable as it seems that even the huge corsair obsidian 1000d does not have enough space to mount them like that somewhere below or above motherboard

So either wait and hope more are made that can support those card or get a used godlike. Even with the spacing, temps are still gonna suffer a bit, given how bad airflow is for open air coolers. Seems as though x99 boards are just built for better options. 

[TheNaitsyrk]

17 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

Yes, it would fix it and i might try that in case i dont find any other solution cause i really like the look of their original air cooler.....

 

Best possible option would be to find motherboard that has enough space for them but there is only one z370 mobo with enough space between cards and that one is discontonued

 

I could also sacrifise look of my setup and put both cards on raiser cable and make more space between two cards and mount them somewhere else in tower case but i dont know how to best mount them with raiser cable as it seems that even the huge corsair obsidian 1000d does not have enough space to mount them like that somewhere below or above motherboard

I don't think spacing would fix the issue either. They will still get over 75C so you can pretty much say good bye to the overclocking unless fans go 100% at all times.

[milekita189]

26 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

So either wait and hope more are made that can support those card or get a used godlike. Even with the spacing, temps are still gonna suffer a bit, given how bad airflow is for open air coolers. Seems as though x99 boards are just built for better options. 

I will try to find some used godlike gaming motherboard but if i dont manage to get my hands on one what do you think about getting raiser cables for both cards and 4 slot sli bridge and just trying to somehow mount them below or above motherboards in some huge case (if i find case big enough for this but no luck so far...) cause if i find big enough case that would allow me to mount them somewhere else in case and have some space between them, of course i could mount AIO on them and loose warranty but i would keep that as my last option (i sometimes get unlucky with electronics and having card die on me without warranty would really suck)

 

Of course there aslo option of waiting for z390 motherboards and CPUs and hoping that at least one z390 motherborad on market when released can support those cards, there are rumors and leaks that there will be godlike gaming z390 motherboards but no one can be sure if those leaks and rumors are true and even if they are who knows if it will have same spacing between two cards like z370 godlike gaming

 

But yeah seems like z370 just sucks when it comes to pcie options....... I would get something like x99 but thing is i really want 8700k and that one is z370

 

I will probably start building everything sometimes around christmas so who knows, maybe there will be better 2080 ti out by then or better motherboard.....

[milekita189]

21 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I don't think spacing would fix the issue either. They will still get over 75C so you can pretty much say good bye to the overclocking unless fans go 100% at all times.

Im fine with high fan speed and noise as i have pretty good noise canceling headphones, im also fine with higher temps as long as cards can keep their boost clock most of the time and dont drop below it too often, im okay with them occasionally dropping to base clock but not too often

[TheNaitsyrk]

3 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

Im fine with high fan speed and noise as i have pretty good noise canceling headphones, im also fine with higher temps as long as cards can keep their boost clock most of the time and dont drop below it too often, im okay with them occasionally dropping to base clock but not too often

They probably won't. GamersNexus clearly explained that anything over 60C experiences lost clocks. Over 70C is even worse. My 1080 Tis always stay at around 45C.

[milekita189]

5 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

They probably won't. GamersNexus clearly explained that anything over 60C experiences lost clocks. Over 70C is even worse. My 1080 Tis always stay at around 45C.

Wow, didnt know that, tought they could go to at least 80 before dropping

 

might aswell wait and get some watercooled version of 2080 ti or maybe even hybrid.......

 

I will be building this setup around christmas this year so maybe something better will be releases by then.....

[TheNaitsyrk]

7 minutes ago, milekita189 said:

Wow, didnt know that, tought they could go to at least 80 before dropping

 

might aswell wait and get some watercooled version of 2080 ti or maybe even hybrid.......

 

I will be building this setup around christmas this year so maybe something better will be releases by then.....

Hybrids will be around £1500 I assume.

[milekita189]

13 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Hybrids will be around £1500 I assume.

Considering that gaming x trio costs about 1320€ here where i live hybeid or just watercooled might be worth it more than buying 800 motherboard for little improvement....

 

I guess i will just wait until im ready to build my setup and then decide instade of rushing with decisions now

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 hours ago, milekita189 said:

Considering that gaming x trio costs about 1320€ here where i live hybeid or just watercooled might be worth it more than buying 800 motherboard for little improvement....

 

I guess i will just wait until im ready to build my setup and then decide instade of rushing with decisions now

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