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13 hours ago, Demm said:

I don't understand. Why an i7 chip for 1440?. In 1440p, the stress is on the GPU, not the CPU. The FPS in 1440p is the same between 8700 and 8400, so I don't need to waste the money. Also you added a K processor + cooler + OC Mobo, but still 550W Power Supply.

Yeah, 1440P tolerates an i5, no problem. Framerates are not exactly the same on average at 1440P between the 8400 and 8700, but yes, they are fairly similar.

 

I think the main reason he added the 8700K and accompanying parts was to justify that $2000 budget.

 

P.S, what is your maximum budget?

Hello all,

 

I am asking for advice on my next PC build. From the below parts I already own the Monitor, SSD and Case. I think the RTX 2080 is a better option as in my country the difference between it, and the GTX 1080 Ti is only $60. I am just wondering how do you like the parts and if you have better suggestions. I am a bit concerned about the motherboard. Wasn't there something few months ago where ASUS motherboards increase Intel processors performance so wouldn't an Asus board be better? Also, do you think Ray Tracing will be any good and what are you predictions, because I have ones of my own.

 

I will use the computer mainly for gaming in 1440p.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty H370 Performance ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($829.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($96.78 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($38.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Total: $2148.58 ($1,355 without the already owned parts).
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: Ryzen 5 2600, MOBO: MSI Tomahawk B450, RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000 (2x8 GB), GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Gaming-X Trio, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S, PSU: Corsair RM 650, HDD: WD Blue 1TB, SSD: Samsung 860 ECO 500GB, CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C

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You're going to need a much better CPU if you want to play at 1440p 165Hz.  Go with a Z370 motherboard and a i7 8700k instead.


Also, don't power a RTX2080 with a Corsair CXM. If you have enough money for an RTX you have enough money for a better PSU.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($379.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($100.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($829.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($96.78 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $2588.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-22 05:44 EDT-0400

 

CPU: Intel i7 6700k  | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 5 | RAM: 2x16GB 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX | GPU: Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080ti | PSU: Corsair RM750x (2018) | Case: BeQuiet SilentBase 800 | Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 eSports | SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 500GB + Samsung 840 500GB + Crucial MX500 2TB | Monitor: Acer Predator XB271HU + Samsung BX2450

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27 minutes ago, Spotty said:

You're going to need a much better CPU if you want to play at 1440p 165Hz.  Go with a Z370 motherboard and a i7 8700k instead.


Also, don't power a RTX2080 with a Corsair CXM. If you have enough money for an RTX you have enough money for a better PSU.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($379.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($100.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($829.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($96.78 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($599.99 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $2588.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-22 05:44 EDT-0400

 

I don't understand. Why an i7 chip for 1440?. In 1440p, the stress is on the GPU, not the CPU. The FPS in 1440p is the same between 8700 and 8400, so I don't need to waste the money. Also you added a K processor + cooler + OC Mobo, but still 550W Power Supply.

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600, MOBO: MSI Tomahawk B450, RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000 (2x8 GB), GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Gaming-X Trio, CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S, PSU: Corsair RM 650, HDD: WD Blue 1TB, SSD: Samsung 860 ECO 500GB, CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C

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13 hours ago, Demm said:

I don't understand. Why an i7 chip for 1440?. In 1440p, the stress is on the GPU, not the CPU. The FPS in 1440p is the same between 8700 and 8400, so I don't need to waste the money. Also you added a K processor + cooler + OC Mobo, but still 550W Power Supply.

Yeah, 1440P tolerates an i5, no problem. Framerates are not exactly the same on average at 1440P between the 8400 and 8700, but yes, they are fairly similar.

 

I think the main reason he added the 8700K and accompanying parts was to justify that $2000 budget.

 

P.S, what is your maximum budget?

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17 hours ago, Demm said:

I don't understand. Why an i7 chip for 1440?. In 1440p, the stress is on the GPU, not the CPU. The FPS in 1440p is the same between 8700 and 8400, so I don't need to waste the money.

The problem is in hitting the high refresh rates of 144/165Hz that your monitor allows for. Even at 1440p you can still run in to CPU bottlenecks trying to hit the high refresh rates. I have the same monitor with a 1080ti that performs the same as the RTX2080 and I do experience some CPU bottlenecks (i7 6700k) in some games trying to high the high refresh rate.
Not all games are going to experience this, and you are using a Gsync monitor so it will still feel smooth even if you are struggling to hit the 144/165hz refresh rate.

An added benefit of the 8700k with its 6c/12t is that it will also afford you much more multitasking headroom if you were inclined to stream to twitch while playing or whatever else you might want to do.

 

If you aren't interested in going with the i7, then it might be worthwhile considering the i5 8600k with a Z370 board.

Or even considering swapping over the AMD side of things. A Ryzen 2600 will give you performance close to an i5 8400 and cost less. If you wanted more CPU performance then swap it for a Ryzen 2700.

 

17 hours ago, Demm said:

Also you added a K processor + cooler + OC Mobo, but still 550W Power Supply.

8700k doesn't come with a stock intel cooler (which would be inadequate) which is why I added the cooler to the build list.
An overclocked 8700k and RTX2080 will consume less than 550W under peak loads. The reason I changed the PSU is not because of the wattage required, but because it's a better quality PSU and better suited for higher end builds.

 

The Corsair CXM is a good unit for budget-mid tier systems, but if you're looking at building a higher end system with a high end GPU like the RTX2080 then you should also be looking at better quality PSUs as well. The Corsair RMx I recommended is a really good quality unit, but if you don't want that unit or would prefer a more affordable unit, then consider units such as the Corsair TXm, Seasonic Focus Plus Gold, EVGA G2, or Bitfenix Whisper M.

CPU: Intel i7 6700k  | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z170x Gaming 5 | RAM: 2x16GB 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX | GPU: Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080ti | PSU: Corsair RM750x (2018) | Case: BeQuiet SilentBase 800 | Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 eSports | SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 500GB + Samsung 840 500GB + Crucial MX500 2TB | Monitor: Acer Predator XB271HU + Samsung BX2450

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