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2 minutes ago, Reddox said:

 

Since I don't need high performance atm, what motherboard / ram would you advice ? The idea is to upgrade when I will have the needs of great performance.

I think the gigabyte h110 motherboard you proposed was a good idea for the i3, since both are budget options. Going to 4gb of ddr4 from your 4gb of ddr2 is an excellent upgrade, and absolute bare minimum if you ask me. Be prepared to have to reinstall Windows when you swap motherboards, though.

Hi guys, I am looking to upgrade my system, wich is running a GT 1030, an intel core I2 Q8200 and 2*2 vddr2 ram. Thats really bad. In another topic, people advised me to sell my GDDR5 1030 to buy a new CPU and use the APU of the cpu. But I wasn't able to sell my card. A moderator guessed I could use a pentium gold or an intel core I3 8100.

I was thinking of buying the i3 8100 for better upgradability. I found those fairly cheap motherboards (GIGABYTE GA-H110-D3A 6* PCIe and ASROCK H81 Pro BTC R2.0 6* PCIe), but I have no idea of what ram I could use.

My budget is rly tight (around 200-300$), and I'm looking to play competitive games (CSGO or R6 siege) as well as more casual games like civilization. I'm not exepting to run the last AAA games, but how could I get the best bang for the buck pc ?

 

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The core i3 upgrade you're considering is a good idea, I recommend it.

Not sure what a core i2 is tho

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you cannot sell your parts. the parts are simply too old and worthless. The best you can do is buy a sandy bridge system with a CPU and ram for maybe $150.(try to get a K version so you can overclock it) Spend the rest $150~ on 1050ti. This combo should get you decent frame rates on CSGO.

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27 minutes ago, Srnewbee said:

you cannot sell your parts. the parts are simply too old and worthless. The best you can do is buy a sandy bridge system with a CPU and ram for maybe $150.(try to get a K version so you can overclock it) Spend the rest $150~ on 1050ti. This combo should get you decent frame rates on CSGO.

The 1050 ti is a good idea later on, but I think OP is on the right track, wanting to buy a modern motherboard to accommodate later upgrades, and he'll see a good performance bump from it.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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2 hours ago, Reddox said:

My budget is rly tight (around 200-300$), and I'm looking to play competitive games (CSGO or R6 siege) as well as more casual games like civilization

this is his goal. Upgrading to an APU will not get him what he wants.

 

55 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The 1050 ti is a good idea later on, but I think OP is on the right track, wanting to buy a modern motherboard to accommodate later upgrades, and he'll see a good performance bump from it.

If he spends all his money on a mobo and a CPU, he won't be able to play games right away. I don't want to be too pushy but my initial recommendation suits his needs.

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9 minutes ago, Srnewbee said:

this is his goal. Upgrading to an APU will not get him what he wants.

 

If he spends all his money on a mobo and a CPU, he won't be able to play games right away. I don't want to be too pushy but my initial recommendation suits his needs.

The gt 1030 will suffice, he can grab a 1050 ti later on but his current graphics card will hold up. He'll be able to use his setup without having to upgrade again for a much longer time if he gets a modern motherboard first, and he may decide the configuration has suitable performance.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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he will get 45~47 fps on medium setting with a strong CPU and 1030. IMO, that is unplayable for competitive gaming. I think 60fps would be the minimum. My line of reasoning is this, if he buys old unupgradable parts then he can play the games he wants comfortably on 60fps, quite possibly on high settings. If he get a future mobo, he can only hit 45fps on medium, but he will have the chance to upgrade in the future. Taken everything into account, it is still a better idea to follow my initial advice because

1) we do not know when he will have enough money to upgrade to new parts, until then he will suffer from frustrations that stems from having low fps. Accordingly, his immediate needs will not be satisfied.

2) he will feel like he wasted his money

3) he still seems like a young guy, I am sure he will get more money 2~3 years down the line. Then he can buy a legit upgradeable rig.

Given his financial situation, my advice may be more suitable.

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On 20/09/2018 at 5:45 AM, Srnewbee said:

 

he will get 45~47 fps on medium setting with a strong CPU and 1030. IMO, that is unplayable for competitive gaming. I think 60fps would be the minimum. My line of reasoning is this, if he buys old unupgradable parts then he can play the games he wants comfortably on 60fps, quite possibly on high settings. If he get a future mobo, he can only hit 45fps on medium, but he will have the chance to upgrade in the future. Taken everything into account, it is still a better idea to follow my initial advice because

1) we do not know when he will have enough money to upgrade to new parts, until then he will suffer from frustrations that stems from having low fps. Accordingly, his immediate needs will not be satisfied.

2) he will feel like he wasted his money

3) he still seems like a young guy, I am sure he will get more money 2~3 years down the line. Then he can buy a legit upgradeable rig.

Given his financial situation, my advice may be more suitable.

The only problem with your solution is that the prices are not correct :/

If I want to buy a 1050 TI, it will cost me at least 160$. Any 8g ram cost around 60$ and I doubt I can find a CPU + a motherboard for around 80$. Do you have any exemples of a adequat sandy bridge system ?

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4 minutes ago, Reddox said:

The only problem with your solution is that the prices are not correct :/

If I want to buy a 1050 TI, it will cost me at least 160$. Any 8g ram cost around 60$ and I doubt I can find a CPU + a motherboard for around 80$. Do you have any exemples of a adequat sandy bridge system ?

I think he meant a used 1050ti because on eBay you can get one for closer to $120. You are right though, $300 still isn't enough for the proposed upgrade.

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Just now, fasauceome said:

I think he meant a used 1050ti because on eBay you can get one for closer to $120. You are right though, $300 still isn't enough for the proposed upgrade.

Since I don't need high performance atm, what motherboard / ram would you advice ? The idea is to upgrade when I will have the needs of great performance.

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2 minutes ago, Reddox said:

 

Since I don't need high performance atm, what motherboard / ram would you advice ? The idea is to upgrade when I will have the needs of great performance.

I think the gigabyte h110 motherboard you proposed was a good idea for the i3, since both are budget options. Going to 4gb of ddr4 from your 4gb of ddr2 is an excellent upgrade, and absolute bare minimum if you ask me. Be prepared to have to reinstall Windows when you swap motherboards, though.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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18 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

I think the gigabyte h110 motherboard you proposed was a good idea for the i3, since both are budget options. Going to 4gb of ddr4 from your 4gb of ddr2 is an excellent upgrade, and absolute bare minimum if you ask me. Be prepared to have to reinstall Windows when you swap motherboards, though.

That will not be a problem. I run both w7 and w10 because of compatibility issues with my controller :P

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