Need recommendation with build

[AdroG23]

Hi everyone!!  
Ok, so this is my first post here, so be gentle.
First of all, a little intro, i live in a country where they KILL us with the price of tech. really, KILL US.

You might have heard of it, it's the infamous Argentina.
Why is this relevant? 'cause you might think "dude, that's stupid, even in a budget you could get a better cpu for almost the same"
Well, no... for example, the I3 8100 (main reason for this post) is a bit over $150,- here (Roughly over 6000,- argentinian pesos),

So, this is the deal. I'm currently setting up an entry lvl gaming PC, it's on a budget, so i have some bothersome limitations.

At around the same price, should i go with a I3 8100 or a Ryzen 3 1300X? 
Bare in mind that the PC will sport a gtx 1050ti and 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz. (that's why i didn't consider the R3 2200g or 2400g)

MoBo is not a problem, since we have NO intention of going SLI on this one.
But then again... I3 8100 vs R3 1300X?

What do you guys think?

[VK707]

Intel has a slight edge in FPS which imo is more important in the low end when every FPS can count. Unless the Cheaper R3 1300 (and possibly cheaper motherboard) can help with other components i would go with the 8100

 

Edit: That being said the R3 1300X offers much nicer upgrade options on cheaper B350/B450 motherboards to say a 2700X if ever desired

[bleedblue]

 

7 minutes ago, VK707 said:

Intel has a slight edge in FPS which imo is more important in the low end when every FPS can count. Unless the Cheaper R3 1300 (and possibly cheaper motherboard) can help with other components i would go with the 8100

Ermmm, no. Noticeable fps advantage of intel is only when the CPU is the bottleneck, ie gaming with a 1080ti at 1080p. At this low a pricepoint it doesn't matter.

 

When every penny counts, go ryzen, much better value.

 

Go R3 1200. Same performance in your workload at a cheaper cost.

[VK707]

3 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

 

Ermmm, no. Noticeable fps advantage of intel is only when the CPU is the bottleneck, ie gaming with a 1080ti at 1080p. At this low a pricepoint it doesn't matter.

 

When every penny counts, go ryzen, much better value.

 

Go R3 1200. Same performance in your workload at a cheaper cost.

720p benchmarks online for games tend to disagree with you especially once you consider lower end ram on the Ryzen

[bleedblue]

Just now, VK707 said:

720p benchmarks online for games tend to disagree with you especially once you consider lower end ram on the Ryzen

Which benchmarks?

And who plays at 720p anymore?

[iBabySlapper]

22 minutes ago, AdroG23 said:

Hi everyone!!  
Ok, so this is my first post here, so be gentle.
First of all, a little intro, i live in a country where they KILL us with the price of tech. really, KILL US.

You might have heard of it, it's the infamous Argentina.
Why is this relevant? 'cause you might think "dude, that's stupid, even in a budget you could get a better cpu for almost the same"
Well, no... for example, the I3 8100 (main reason for this post) is a bit over $150,- here (Roughly over 6000,- argentinian pesos),

So, this is the deal. I'm currently setting up an entry lvl gaming PC, it's on a budget, so i have some bothersome limitations.

At around the same price, should i go with a I3 8100 or a Ryzen 3 1300X? 
Bare in mind that the PC will sport a gtx 1050ti and 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz. (that's why i didn't consider the R3 2200g or 2400g)

MoBo is not a problem, since we have NO intention of going SLI on this one.
But then again... I3 8100 vs R3 1300X?

What do you guys think?

I'd say go for Ryzen. When you're on a budget, AMD claiming to support AM4 for years to come is always a plus, which intel won't do.

[VK707]

10 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

Which benchmarks?

And who plays at 720p anymore?

for example:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-i3-8100-CPU-266819/Tests/Duell-gegen-Ryzen-3-1300X-1245180/

[Peskanova]

32 minutes ago, AdroG23 said:

Hi everyone!!  
Ok, so this is my first post here, so be gentle.
First of all, a little intro, i live in a country where they KILL us with the price of tech. really, KILL US.

You might have heard of it, it's the infamous Argentina.
Why is this relevant? 'cause you might think "dude, that's stupid, even in a budget you could get a better cpu for almost the same"
Well, no... for example, the I3 8100 (main reason for this post) is a bit over $150,- here (Roughly over 6000,- argentinian pesos),

So, this is the deal. I'm currently setting up an entry lvl gaming PC, it's on a budget, so i have some bothersome limitations.

At around the same price, should i go with a I3 8100 or a Ryzen 3 1300X? 
Bare in mind that the PC will sport a gtx 1050ti and 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz. (that's why i didn't consider the R3 2200g or 2400g)

MoBo is not a problem, since we have NO intention of going SLI on this one.
But then again... I3 8100 vs R3 1300X?

What do you guys think?

Holaaaa ,  saludos desde españa , yo si fuera tu , por ese precio me compraba un 4700k o un 4790k de segunda mano que te dara mucho mas rendimiento que uno nuevo , con ddr3 te saldra mas barato.

Si yo tubiera ese problema miraria en apps de segunda mano (o mejor en tiendas que te den algo de garantia) y me compraria placa base , ram y procesador de 2º mano (un i7 4700k o un 4790k estaria de lujo) y eso con una fuente nueva y una 1050ti (mas ssd y hdd) tendras para quemar esa 1050ti, por 200-300$ seguro que podras conseguir placa mas procesador e incluso ram.

[bleedblue]

31 minutes ago, VK707 said:

for example:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Core-i3-8100-CPU-266819/Tests/Duell-gegen-Ryzen-3-1300X-1245180/

Uh-huh...benchmarks from some german site.

 

From what I understood they tested with a 980Ti, so your argument actually only drives home my own. Thanks. The cpu was the bottleneck there resulting in better performance for the intel chip.

 

When using something as weak as a 1050, there will literally be 0 performance difference.

[AdroG23]

1 hour ago, Peskanova said:

Holaaaa ,  saludos desde españa , yo si fuera tu , por ese precio me compraba un 4700k o un 4790k de segunda mano que te dara mucho mas rendimiento que uno nuevo , con ddr3 te saldra mas barato.

Si yo tubiera ese problema miraria en apps de segunda mano (o mejor en tiendas que te den algo de garantia) y me compraria placa base , ram y procesador de 2º mano (un i7 4700k o un 4790k estaria de lujo) y eso con una fuente nueva y una 1050ti (mas ssd y hdd) tendras para quemar esa 1050ti, por 200-300$ seguro que podras conseguir placa mas procesador e incluso ram.

Lo pense! Pero aca en Argentina la mayoria de la gente maltrata de manera increible a su hardware, overclocks sin sentido ni correcta ventilacion en un gabinete INFIMO. Comprar segunda mano aca es muy peligroso, salvo que conozcas a quien le estas comprando.
Al margen de eso, la pc no es para mi, sino para un tercero y me tengo que apegar a productos nuevos con garantia

Nota de color, datos de mi equipo:
Mother: Asus Prime X370 PRO

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600

Ram: right now: 8 gb Corsair Vengeance 3200 

          soon: 16 gb Corsair Vengeance rgb PRO 3000

VGA: Asus STRIX gtx 1080

Drives: 1x ssd Crucial MX500 240 gb

            2x hdd WD Blue 1 tb

            Coming soon: Samsung 970 nvme 240 gb & Samsung 850 500 gb  (maaaaybe a Corsair nvme instead of the 970, since i'm building a Corsair rig)

Case: Corsair Crystal 570x

All of this crowned with 6 beautiful Corsairs 120LL and also coming soon a custom water loop or a Corsair H115i... will see what can i get/afford down here u.u

[AdroG23]

Great answers, thanks guys.

And just so you see how ugly things get in my homeland, this pc that i just told you, with a 550w 80+ bronze, a cheap case, a small ssd and a 1tb hdd and a 1080p 22" display will cost about $1000,- (around 38000,- pesos argentinos). Which is the budget limit i have.

We're so nicely screwed down here