Input Wanted For Build Pt 2 (Unsolved)

[AmitZ]

Recently I have taken up a computer sciences course in high school. Our first assignment being that we have to create a computer workstation, under $750 (CAD) Including shipping and tax. I have something but I would like input on the build as to what I can make better within the budget I am given, and for the suggestions please give your reasoning. I am rather new and would like to learn. I'm open to any feedback. (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/amitzaidman/saved/DBDw6h) My build link, feel free to edit and send me images with suggestions if you'd like but make sure that you are on Canadian Dollars. Thanks everyone!

[r2724r16]

Is it a gaming PC or productivity PC?

[AskTJ]

I would look at used systems on eBay, like old servers with plenty of ram and high core xeons.

[limegorilla]

I would add in a 120GB SSD in there, even if you have to scale back on the Hard Drive.

[AmitZ]

5 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Is it a gaming PC or productivity PC?

It is supposed to be a productivity pc.

[AmitZ]

4 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

I would look at used systems on eBay, like old servers with plenty of ram and high core xeons.

It can't be prebuilt whatsoever, I have to buy all the parts separately.

[AmitZ]

4 minutes ago, limegorilla said:

I would add in a 120GB SSD in there, even if you have to scale back on the Hard Drive.

Which company though, I don't want to go over the budget that was handed to us in class.

[aezakmi]

burning $45 on a wifi adapter instead of using ethernet for a workstation seems reasonable /S

 

I'd go for the 2400G

[AmitZ]

3 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

burning $45 on a wifi adapter instead of using ethernet for a workstation seems reasonable /S

 

I'd go for the 2400G

I am very new to this, could you explain more and the reasoning thanks. Sorry for being tedious.

[Drak3]

Mouse and keyboard are good for input.

 

 

 

 

Looks good, I second the notion of trying to use ethernet over wifi. Better security and stability.

[Fasauceome]

upgrade to the r5 2400g would be worth it

[AmitZ]

5 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

upgrade to the r5 2400g would be worth it

That would take me above the price limit when including tax and shipping, my budget is in CAD not USD.

[Taf the Ghost]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7LdxTB

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($208.25 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.75 @ shopRBC) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $701.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 20:37 EDT-0400

[Taf the Ghost]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/skqh29

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.75 @ shopRBC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card  ($123.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $747.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 20:39 EDT-0400

 

Wouldn't necessarily recommend this one, but it is a discrete GPU build.

 

Could actually build these with 1 Stick of memory at 8 Gb, but if it's any productivity beyond Excel, that extra is very useful.

[Taf the Ghost]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9ndMZ

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($232.14 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($100.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card  ($123.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $746.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 20:43 EDT-0400

 

Really just depends what the "Use Case" you're going for. Every program wants something a little different, so it's a common discussion point when someone is asking for build advice. 

[AmitZ]

15 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7LdxTB

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($208.25 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.75 @ shopRBC) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $701.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 20:37 EDT-0400

This looks like a very nice build but PCPartPicker doesn't automatically input tax and/or shipping costs...

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, AmitZ said:

This looks like a very nice build but PCPartPicker doesn't automatically input tax and/or shipping costs...

What's the tax up there?

[AmitZ]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

What's the tax up there?

It's 13% HST and the budget we are given has to include tax and shipping of which I shall have to go and calculate later by going on each website.

[Taf the Ghost]

6 minutes ago, AmitZ said:

It's 13% HST and the budget we are given has to include tax and shipping of which I shall have to go and calculate later by going on each website.

So keep the budget under 650 CAD then.

[AmitZ]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

So keep the budget under 650 CAD then.

Pretty much, yeah.

[AmitZ]

9 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

So keep the budget under 650 CAD then.

Any other ideas, like could I just change it to 8GB of ram instead of 16GB?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, AmitZ said:

Pretty much, yeah.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tcVDnH

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($130.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.75 @ shopRBC) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $600.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 21:13 EDT-0400

 

For "productivity" and the budget, this works pretty well.

[AmitZ]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tcVDnH

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($130.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($85.75 @ shopRBC) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $600.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 21:13 EDT-0400

 

For "productivity" and the budget, this works pretty well.

What about the previous one with the Ryzen 5 2400G, couldn't the price be lowered by lowering the ram, or would that impact the system, is it that necessary to have 16GB of ram?

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, AmitZ said:

What about the previous one with the Ryzen 5 2400G, couldn't the price be lowered by lowering the ram, or would that impact the system, is it that necessary to have 16GB of ram?

RAM is more useful than the CPU uplift. 

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7cF4P3

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($134.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.87 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($175.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $610.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 21:20 EDT-0400

 

Locked them to Amazon Canada and RAM from Newegg CA (because it's really cheap there).

[aezakmi]

53 minutes ago, AmitZ said:

I am very new to this, could you explain more and the reasoning thanks. Sorry for being tedious.

sorry lol

 

The 2400G performs better than the 2200G and is almost in the same price bracket, also, you were asked for a workstation computer, adding wifi to one seems pointless since every 'standard' workplace will already have a decent LAN.

Depending on the workloads you might need the SSD or not... let's say the computer is used for stock trading, server monitoring, security control or standard office tasks, those don't need an SSD, now, if the computers gonna be used for rendering models, videos, photo editing or more complex stuff then you'll need it