Future... bottlenecking?

[andl3]

Will my R5 2600X bottleneck the new RTX 2070 if it is as powerful as said.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, andl3 said:

Will my R5 2600X bottleneck the new RTX 2070 if it is as powerful as said.

No, unless you're trying to push over 600 FPS in something like CS:GO. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 minutes ago, andl3 said:

Will my R5 2600X bottleneck the new RTX 2070 if it is as powerful as said.

depend on the game, screen resolution and detail settings.

[Sauron]

No, and the 2070 is most likely not going to be much faster than a 1080 - not a big upgrade for you.

[andl3]

1080p 144hz ultra all ofc

[Verrm]

I would say no, but then you might want ~600fps 1080p CS:GO experience.

I think it shouldn't bottleneck if you play at least semi-modern titles. 2600X is capable of handling 1080Ti and greater cards...

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, andl3 said:

1080p 144hz ultra all ofc

why would you want such a powerful card for 1080p gaming though?

Your current 1070ti is overkill for that.

[andl3]

I want to see stable 144hz on all ultra

[Verrm]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

No, and the 2070 is most likely not going to be much faster than a 1080 - not a big upgrade for you.

I heard from Hardware Unboxed that it's gonna be closer to 1070Ti level of performance and I think I can agree with him. This means that unless you really want RT you might want to consider buying 1070Ti and save some cash or buy 1080.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, andl3 said:

I want to see stable 144hz on all ultra

then yes your CPU will be an issue at achieving this goal.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, Verrm said:

I heard from Hardware Unboxed that it's gonna be closer to 1070Ti level of performance and I think I can agree with him. This means that unless you really want RT you might want to consider buying 1070Ti and save some cash or buy 1080.

i've seen HU video and i think the guy is pissed that he wasn't invited to go or something...that can't even be possible...that's a 2 gen leap...Volta being already much faster than pascal, how could turing be the same performance?! RTX 2070 performing like 1070ti ain't happening that's for sure...IMHO RTX 2070 will perform about like a 1080ti.

[Verrm]

1 minute ago, andl3 said:

I want to see stable 144hz on all ultra

Oh my, you DO have 1070Ti. You play 1080p I assume? Go to youtube and see how games you play would run on geforce 1080. It's not that easy to run at 144fps in some titles.

[MadPistol]

I hate to be the party pooper here, but why do people keep asking these questions?

 

An R5 2600X is a great CPU, games or not.

 

We have very little information on the RTX 2070 thus far.

 

Seeing as you have a GTX 1070 Ti already, WAIT!!!! Don't upgrade, don't pre-order, etc. etc. etc. You have a fantastic GPU that can do what you're asking it to do with ease. If you're unhappy, go out and buy an i7 8700k, which is (at this time) the fastest CPU for gaming on the market.

[Verrm]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

i've seen HU video and i think the guy is pissed that he wasn't invited to go or something...that can't even be possible...that's a 2 gen leap...Volta being already much faster than pascal, how could turing be the same performance?! RTX 2070 performing like 1070ti ain't happening that's for sure...IMHO RTX 2070 will perform about like a 1080ti.

RTX 2070 has 2304 Cuda Cores, GDDRX5, 16nm

GTX 1070Ti has 2432 Cuda Cores, GDDR6, 12nm

We already know that 12nm does not clock better than 16nm - meaning that whichever clocks you run on 12nm you can run on 16nm. So it's not about clocks. The difference is the possible improvement from architecture and memory, that needs to overcome the loss of having less cuda cores than 1070Ti. Do you really think that gain will be that high to allow for 1080Ti performance? Personally I think it will be nice if we see 1080-like performance, more leaning towards 1070Ti AIB performance.

I feel that we are paying way too high of a premium for Ray Tracing with this and Nvidia knows it that is why it is pushing towards new generation in next year.

[i_build_nanosuits]

14 minutes ago, Verrm said:

RTX 2070 has 2304 Cuda Cores, GDDRX5, 16nm

GTX 1070Ti has 2432 Cuda Cores, GDDR6, 12nm

 

GTX 780ti was 2880 cuda cores...so that doesn't mean anything

 

it's a new architecture, how much a turin core can process vs a pascal core...that we don't know yet...but they said they have new units to process floating point operations in parallel with integer operation so the gains will likely be very substantial...it's a 2 gen bump and volta was already a lot superior to pascal per core.

[Verrm]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

GTX 780ti was 2880 cuda cores...so that doesn't mean anything

 

it's a new architecture, how much a turin core can process vs a pascal core...that we don't know yet...but they said they have new units to process floating point operations in parallel with integer operation so the gains will likely be very substantial...it's a 2 gen bump and volta was already a lot superior to pascal per core.

Let's hope you're right then  Oh and I saw that you're buying 2080Ti - good luck! This one is gonna be a beast!

[i_build_nanosuits]

12 minutes ago, Verrm said:

Let's hope you're right then  Oh and I saw that you're buying 2080Ti - good luck! This one is gonna be a beast!

Yeah but i'm not pre-ordering or anything silly like that...i'll wait for performance numbers and i'll probably also wait for Christmas...maybe there will be a bit of a better deal then, and it will make a great christmas gift for daddy I do want more performance for VR supersampling, but i'm not in a bad situation right now my card works fine for what i do still but in the long run it'll be a good move to upgrade and enjoy better performance for a longer while...i don't know we'll see but i think i can hold off until christmas and see how it plays out

Good luck to you as well for the future!

[Darkseth]

2 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

why would you want such a powerful card for 1080p gaming though?

Your current 1070ti is overkill for that.

If you only want 50-60 fps on a 144 Hz monitor, you are right.

 

If you aim to let your fps go up to 144, then even a 1080 ti won't do the job.

 

Rise of the Tomb Raider. 1080p. GTX 1080.

When i max out every setting (and yes, SSAA x4 instead of FXAA is part of max settings) i barely hit 60 fps. 1080 ti will be 20% more fps.

 

@ Thread: Who knows. If anyone could foresee the future, they wouldn't be here, but at the next Casino, or playing lottery right now.

Wait untill it's out, and see tests.

 

And your Settings alone don't say anything about bottlenecks. What game is it? Cities skyline with huge towns? Ashes of the Benchmarks? Warhammer?  or other strategy games with thousands of units? Yea, your CPU will be a bottleneck. EVERY CPU will be a bottleneck. 

 

Typical mainstream AAA games? most likely a GPU Bottleneck, just as you want it.

Maybe a 2070 will hit so much fps in certain games, that your CPU eventually does become a bottleneck.

 

But who cares? It's not possible NOT to have a Nottleneck while gaming. You will always have a bottleneck. If it's not your CPU, it will be your GPU.

Either you have enough fps, or you don't.

And for that, you don't need a GPU for.

Does your Ryzen 5 2600X deliver enough fps for you, or not? If it does, there is no problem, with neither GPU.

If it doesn't, why are we talking about a future GPU that didn't even launch yet? Your CPU is the problem, not the GPU.