When do i need to upgrade?

[WeedIsMySin]

I have an i7-8700k 1070ti and 16gb ddr4, for how long can i games play decently on 1440p?

 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Depends what games you play, for lighter titles probably 5 or so years, 2 or 3 for AAA titles

[TheGlenlivet]

4 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

I have an i7-8700k 1070ti and 16gb ddr4, for how long can i games play decently on 1440p?

 

Probably years with AAA titles as they are now.

Even then a new GPU would probably get you back to high tier performance.

[wONKEyeYEs]

4 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

I have an i7-8700k 1070ti and 16gb ddr4, for how long can i games play decently on 1440p?

2,628,000 minutes.

[TetraSky]

When you can no longer run games at the graphical settings and framerate that you want.
 

You have at least 2~3 years before you start running in such issues.

After that you can just buy a new GPU to give your computer another 3 years of life, because your CPU will still be more than adequate 6~8 years from now, unless CPU tech increase exponentially now that AMD is finally competing...
Heck just look at the PC I have, it's 8 year old at this point with a few upgrades here and there over the years (GPU, storage, RAM)... I'm past the point of "upgrades", I'm at the "need a whole new machine" stage, but waiting for the next gen of GPUs(I ain't buying 2 year old tech)... and I can still play the latest games just fine.

[somewittyaccountname]

for newer titles i'd say ~2-4 years,but you can always play your old games,and if you don't mind lowering the graphics should last ~5-8 years

[AngryBeaver]

I still have machines running 780 and 780ti's which still run most games pretty much maxed out without issue on 1080p. For that matter I have a sli 580 system that is still doing pretty good, but producing tons of heat lol.

 

 

[TheLaserCucumber]

1 hour ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

2,628,000 minutes.

5 years? Nah I think it should be earlier. 

More like 1,051,200 to 1,576,800 minutes.

[TetraSky]

47 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

5 years? Nah I think it should be earlier. 

More like 1,051,200 to 1,576,800 minutes.

Well it depends, if in 3 years they lose interest in gaming, that computer could certainly last them 5 years.

[WeedIsMySin]

5 hours ago, TetraSky said:

When you can no longer run games at the graphical settings and framerate that you want.
 

You have at least 2~3 years before you start running in such issues.

After that you can just buy a new GPU to give your computer another 3 years of life, because your CPU will still be more than adequate 6~8 years from now, unless CPU tech increase exponentially now that AMD is finally competing...
Heck just look at the PC I have, it's 8 year old at this point with a few upgrades here and there over the years (GPU, storage, RAM)... I'm past the point of "upgrades", I'm at the "need a whole new machine" stage, but waiting for the next gen of GPUs(I ain't buying 2 year old tech)... and I can still play the latest games just fine.

Thanks for the advise. Someone told me i had to upgrade my RAM speed to 3200mhz.. I bought my PC pre-build with 16gb DDR4 2133mhz. I dont know if the extra 200/300 euros is worth it for the extra speed.

[TetraSky]

31 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Thanks for the advise. Someone told me i had to upgrade my RAM speed to 3200mhz.. I bought my PC pre-build with 16gb DDR4 2133mhz. I dont know if the extra 200/300 euros is worth it for the extra speed.

It depends. You don't have to, but it could help yes.

While in some games you could see a significant boost in framerate, in others it might be negligible.
For example, this reddit thread notes a few games with your CPU and 2 different RAM speeds, along with the minimum framerate expected. (They use a Titan XP AFAIK tho' and I believe it's 1080p?)

Spoiler

Core i7-8700K (PurePC)

• BF1 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 158

DDR4 3200 CL14: 192

• Crysis 3 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 112

DDR4 3200 CL14: 119

• Dishonored 2 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 86

DDR4 3200 CL14: 103

• Deus Ex (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 77

DDR4 3200 CL14: 99

• Fallout 4 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 62

DDR4 3200 CL14: 72

Core i7-8700K (DF)

• Far Cry Primal, Ultra

DDR4 2133: 133.1 FPS

DDR4 3000: 141 FPS

• Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12, Very High

DDR4 2133: 133.2 FPS

DDR4 3000: 140 FPS

• The Witcher 3, Ultra, No Hairworks

DDR4 2133: 142.8 FPS

DDR4 3000: 170 FPS

Is the difference really worth the price you'd be asked to pay? That's up to you to decide. You may see a huge improvement just like you may not see one at all, especially when the difference is a few fps way above 60.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 hours ago, WeedIsMySin said:

I have an i7-8700k 1070ti and 16gb ddr4, for how long can i games play decently on 1440p?

 

It's the GPU that'll go first. If you're talking 144 Hz at 1440p, 2 years you'll see issues. At 1440p/60 Hz, maybe a good 4 years, minus some Crysis-like release. 

 

You could also pick up a discounted 1080 Ti in 2 years and that problem goes away.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Thanks for the advise. Someone told me i had to upgrade my RAM speed to 3200mhz.. I bought my PC pre-build with 16gb DDR4 2133mhz. I dont know if the extra 200/300 euros is worth it for the extra speed.

2133 memory will bottleneck any of the current platforms with a high-end GPU. Diminishing returns start at 2666, but 2933/3000 will saturate most everything. Without a 1080 Ti, 3200 isn't "necessary", but it's the most optimal. 3200 will also give your platform the longest lifespan. Just replace the GPU in a few years and you'll still be great, much like people rocking 4790ks right now.

[WeedIsMySin]

15 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

2133 memory will bottleneck any of the current platforms with a high-end GPU. Diminishing returns start at 2666, but 2933/3000 will saturate most everything. Without a 1080 Ti, 3200 isn't "necessary", but it's the most optimal. 3200 will also give your platform the longest lifespan. Just replace the GPU in a few years and you'll still be great, much like people rocking 4790ks right now.

So what is your opinion? because i have about 2000 euro's in my bank account idk if its worth spending 10 procent of my money on RAM speed

[WeedIsMySin]

16 hours ago, TetraSky said:

It depends. You don't have to, but it could help yes.

While in some games you could see a significant boost in framerate, in others it might be negligible.
For example, this reddit thread notes a few games with your CPU and 2 different RAM speeds, along with the minimum framerate expected. (They use a Titan XP AFAIK tho' and I believe it's 1080p?)

  Reveal hidden contents

Core i7-8700K (PurePC)

• BF1 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 158

DDR4 3200 CL14: 192

• Crysis 3 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 112

DDR4 3200 CL14: 119

• Dishonored 2 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 86

DDR4 3200 CL14: 103

• Deus Ex (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 77

DDR4 3200 CL14: 99

• Fallout 4 (min FPS)

DDR4 2133 CL14: 62

DDR4 3200 CL14: 72

Core i7-8700K (DF)

• Far Cry Primal, Ultra

DDR4 2133: 133.1 FPS

DDR4 3000: 141 FPS

• Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12, Very High

DDR4 2133: 133.2 FPS

DDR4 3000: 140 FPS

• The Witcher 3, Ultra, No Hairworks

DDR4 2133: 142.8 FPS

DDR4 3000: 170 FPS

Is the difference really worth the price you'd be asked to pay? That's up to you to decide. You may see a huge improvement just like you may not see one at all, especially when the difference is a few fps way above 60.

Would u personally upgrade?

 

[TetraSky]

46 minutes ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Would u personally upgrade?

 

Not at all.

Because I'm a cheapskate.
You have RAM already, you could try selling it and recoup a bit of the money you'd spend buying new RAM, but is it worth it? To me, it isn't. 
Maybe if RAM wasn't so damn expensive due to "shortage"(colluding), it wouldn't be so bad... But at the moment, it's really just a waste of money to me.

[Taf the Ghost]

6 hours ago, WeedIsMySin said:

So what is your opinion? because i have about 2000 euro's in my bank account idk if its worth spending 10 procent of my money on RAM speed

I'd buy a kit of 2x 3200 CL14 or CL15 memory and put it in there. Do you have an SSD for your boot drive? After that, there's nothing to upgrade until at least another generation of GPUs comes out. Maybe 2 generations.

[WeedIsMySin]

On 12-8-2018 at 1:24 AM, Taf the Ghost said:

I'd buy a kit of 2x 3200 CL14 or CL15 memory and put it in there. Do you have an SSD for your boot drive? After that, there's nothing to upgrade until at least another generation of GPUs comes out. Maybe 2 generations.

Idk, i have a 500gb SSD an 1tb HDD, a company installed windows for me

[Taf the Ghost]

6 hours ago, WeedIsMySin said:

Idk, i have a 500gb SSD an 1tb HDD, a company installed windows for me

Then faster memory is your only worthwhile upgrade available for at least a full GPU generation. Unless you get a high refresh rate monitor, then there's GPU upgrade room.