cpu or gpu bottleneck?

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

so guys i play fortnite on medium settings on 1024 x 768 and i get lots of stutter, my specs are 4 gb ddr2, amd athlon 64 x2 6000+ and amd radeon hd 6770 1 gb gddr5, so where is the bottleneck and how can i fix it? and oh yeah, everything is running on stock speeds

Edited August 7, 2018 by IOSAndAndroidAreGood
forgot to mention that my cpu and gpu was running on stock speed

[Metallus97]

1. Nice Name

2. i think the rig is pretty ok balanced but needs some upgrades. Idd start with a ryzen and 8GB ram and later when the new GPUs are out upgrade that

[AngryBeaver]

Not sure if this is a troll post or not.

 

If not in your case your entire setup is pretty much EOL (End of Life) so you should consider replacing the whole system and moving to a newer platform.

 

I mean with your setup you could pickup a cheap 2200g, motherboard, psu, case, 8gb of ram... and completely smoke your old system in both cpu and gpu performance with the onboard graphics of the 2200g.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

The bottleneck is... everything. That system is unusably old

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDWH8Y
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDWH8Y/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($55.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $523.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-07 09:41 EDT-0400

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

1. Nice Name

2. i think the rig is pretty ok balanced but needs some upgrades. Idd start with a ryzen and 8GB ram and later when the new GPUs are out upgrade that

i am pretty much broke so

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

i am pretty much broke so

yeha do it step by step

[AngryBeaver]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The bottleneck is... everything. That system is unusably old

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDWH8Y
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDWH8Y/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($55.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card  ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $523.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-07 09:41 EDT-0400

He doesn't even need the 1050ti for this. He would see about 80-90% increase in graphic performance from the 6770 to the onboard on the 2200g

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

yeha do it step by step

well i saw a second hand pc with 4 gb ddr3 (upgradable to 16) an and i5 3470 for 180 euros, is that worth it if i slap my hd 6770 in?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, AngryBeaver said:

He doesn't even need the 1050ti for this. He would see about 80-90% increase in graphic performance from the 6770 to the onboard on the 2200g

Still, if he ever wants to play real games

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

He doesn't even need the 1050ti for this. He would see about 80-90% increase in graphic performance from the 6770 to the onboard on the 2200g

correct! Allso the SSD is shiiiiiiiiiath

[AngryBeaver]

3 minutes ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

i am pretty much broke so

If you are ok with reusing your case/ psu and older hard drives you could do it with just the ram/mobo/cpu for around $200. I would probably toss in an extra 50 for either a small ssd for the OS or for a 1-2 tb 7200rpm hdd.

 

Full build though you could do for maybe 350 if you just use the onboard graphics on the 2200g

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

well i saw a second hand pc with 4 gb ddr3 (upgradable to 16) an and i5 3470 for 180 euros, is that worth it if i slap my hd 6770 in?

Step 1 ; buy that

Step 2 ; buy another stick of RAM and a new HDD

Step 3 ; install new parts

step 4; install Windows

step 5 ; use PC

step 6; save up for GTX 1060

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Step 1 ; buy that

Step 2 ; buy another stick of RAM and a new HDD

Step 3 ; install new parts

step 4; install Windows

step 5 ; use PC

step 6; save up for GTX 1060

thank you, lets now save up for the pc itself

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

thank you, lets now save up for the pc itself

Yeah, that'll be a pretty good upgrade path. Your HD6770 should be able to handle Fortnite and if you want to play real games you can upgrade to a 1060 later

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Yeah, that'll be a pretty good upgrade path. Your HD6770 should be able to handle Fortnite and if you want to play real games you can upgrade to a 1060 later

1060 costs 300 euros? that will take 2 years to save up the money for

[AngryBeaver]

I know I know, I went with a hybrid drive, but the price/performance of it will be best bang for buck on his budget.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HRchmq
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HRchmq/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case  ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $373.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-07 09:54 EDT-0400

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

1060 costs 300 euros? that will take 2 years to save up the money for

go amd get a 570 with luck you can do a used for 150

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

1060 costs 300 euros? that will take 2 years to save up the money for

Or get a used 770 or something

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

Just now, Metallus97 said:

go amd get a 570 with luck you can do a used for 150

i saw a new rx 560 for 158

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Or get a used 770 or something

and i have vga monitor

[Darkseth]

17 minutes ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

so guys i play fortnite on medium settings on 1024 x 768 and i get lots of stutter, my specs are 4 gb ddr2, amd athlon 64 x2 6000+ and amd radeon hd 6770 1 gb gddr5, so where is the bottleneck and how can i fix it? and oh yeah, everything is running on stock speeds

Show us a Screenshot of MSI Afterburner Graph Monitor, while you play yours tuttery Game. Then we can tell you exactly, where the bottleneck is.

 

But if it's stuttering, then it's most likely the CPU. it's just super old, and slow.

 

To test it: Reduce Resolution to the lowest you can (480x640? or even 320p, if it's available), and use LOW settings.

if your stutter does not get better, it's your CPU.

[IOSAndAndroidAreGood]

Just now, Darkseth said:

Show us a Screenshot of MSI Afterburner Graph Monitor, while you play yours tuttery Game. Then we can tell you exactly, where the bottleneck is.

 

But if it's stuttering, then it's most likely the CPU. it's just super old, and slow.

 

To test it: Reduce Resolution to the lowest you can (480x640? or even 320p, if it's available), and use LOW settings.

if your stutter does not get better, it's your CPU.

i have tried lowest settings 360p average fps: 43fps, but it drops down to the high teens and low twenties still

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

i saw a new rx 560 for 158

ok if you can afford it go

much better compared to  yours

[Avigaming_]

Wow fortnite runs on a k8

I'll see what can I make

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, IOSAndAndroidAreGood said:

i have tried lowest settings 360p average fps: 43fps, but it drops down to the high teens and low twenties still

Start by buying that used PC, use your HD6770 for a while unitl you can afford to buy a used GTX 970 or something