1070 VS 1070TI?

[halblah]

I will be buying parts for my first build(work+game) soon, I've settled on the 1070 but I heard people saying that the zotac 1070ti mini is a better choice.

What do you guys think I should choose considering that the Ti mini is only $20 more than the 1070 here in Canada? I am using a 1440p ultrawide monitor, and playing games like GTA5, Division, Gears of War 4, Forza 7.

Will the prices drop more as we get closer to the 11 series launch day?

Link to 1070: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ph38TW/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-sc-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-5173-kr

Link to 1070Ti: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/nX98TW/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-8gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10710g-10p

 

Thanks everyone!

 

My parts list:

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/27784q
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/27784q/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($182.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($106.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($569.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Rosewill - Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM  140mm Fan  ($17.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1412.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 18:57 EDT-0400

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

 

Go for the ASrock Pro4 B450 board

The 1070ti is a good deal faster with an OC, though if Vega 56 is around the same price you'll save money with a free-sync display vs a G-sync one

Should get a case with actual airflow like a masterbox 5 black

 

Probably get a better PSU if you're spending that much money on your PC like a seasonic focus gold unit

 

you don't need the extra fan if you get a better case like the RL06 Pro or H500 from coolermaster.

Should also just get like a 42" 4k display instead of a 1440p 21:9 display
 

 

[Phentos]

1070TI would be a much better choice for 1440p UW gaming than the 1070.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1070Ti gets 1080 performance when overclocked, so I'd consider it to be a better card than the 1070.

[halblah]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Go for the ASrock Pro4 B450 board

The 1070ti is a good deal faster with an OC, though if Vega 56 is around the same price you'll save money with a free-sync display vs a G-sync one

Should get a case with actual airflow like a masterbox 5 black

 

Probably get a better PSU if you're spending that much money on your PC like a seasonic focus gold unit

 

you don't need the extra fan if you get a better case like the RL06 Pro or H500 from coolermaster.

Should also just get like a 42" 4k display instead of a 1440p 21:9 display
 

 

Why the Asrock motherboard? and is 650W enough for my build?

[halblah]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

1070Ti gets 1080 performance when overclocked, so I'd consider it to be a better card than the 1070.

But do I need 1080 performance for 1440p ultrawide?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Sb2333 said:

But do I need 1080 performance for 1440p ultrawide?

1080 is better than 1070 at 1440p.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

But do I need 1080 performance for 1440p ultrawide?

It's always better to have more performance than not.

 

650W is fine, I'd just be worried about the actual quality of the PSU.

[halblah]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

It's always better to have more performance than not.

 

650W is fine, I'd just be worried about the actual quality of the PSU.

So how much should I spend on the PSU?

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Sb2333 said:

So how much should I spend on the PSU?

Depends on what kind of unit you get.

 

I'd look for a Seasonic Focus Gold in the 550-650W range or the Corsair CX550M.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

So how much should I spend on the PSU?

looks to be the best bet from a quick look at gold rated units.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4xbz8K
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4xbz8K/by_merchant/

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($98.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $98.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 19:29 EDT-0400

[halblah]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

looks to be the best bet from a quick look at gold rated units.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4xbz8K
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/4xbz8K/by_merchant/

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($98.99 @ PC-Canada)
Total: $98.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 19:29 EDT-0400

Ok thanks! But why that particular motherboard?

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

Ok thanks! But why that particular motherboard?

It's just probably the best budget AM4 board around, the board you picked doesn't even have a VRM heatsink over one of the VRMs.

[aezakmi]

The 1070Ti is close to a 1080 so it'll be better than the standard 1070.

 

Take a look at the CX650 if you don't want to spend too much on a PSU oh and get a case with decent airflow otherwise the card might start throttling, you shouldn't go for a "mini " card as it'll overheat more and faster, go for a regular sized card

[halblah]

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Go for the ASrock Pro4 B450 board

The 1070ti is a good deal faster with an OC, though if Vega 56 is around the same price you'll save money with a free-sync display vs a G-sync one

Should get a case with actual airflow like a masterbox 5 black

 

Probably get a better PSU if you're spending that much money on your PC like a seasonic focus gold unit

 

you don't need the extra fan if you get a better case like the RL06 Pro or H500 from coolermaster.

Should also just get like a 42" 4k display instead of a 1440p 21:9 display
 

 

how about the fractal design focus g? do i need to buy extra fans for that case?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

how about the fractal design focus g? do i need to buy extra fans for that case?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w

If it has a mesh front and comes with some fans it's going to be fine for cooling, Mesh C is also going to be fine

[halblah]

54 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If it has a mesh front and comes with some fans it's going to be fine for cooling, Mesh C is also going to be fine

Also, can I use a micro ATX mini tower for my build? or do I hve to go with mid atx?

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

Also, can I use a micro ATX mini tower for my build? or do I hve to go with mid atx?

The ASrock Pro 4 B450 board is micro ATX

 

if you're going that route get the Q300L, probably the best microATX case IMO

The Q300L is the one that actually has airflow
 

 

[halblah]

4 hours ago, Streetguru said:

The ASrock Pro 4 B450 board is micro ATX

 

if you're going that route get the Q300L, probably the best microATX case IMO

The Q300L is the one that actually has airflow
 

 

last question, is it necessary to over clock the CPU?

[Streetguru]

23 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

last question, is it necessary to over clock the CPU?

If you have the non X CPU you might as well

 

takes 2 minutes to overclock it in Ryzen master, just don't go over 1.4V for daily use.
 

 

[halblah]

19 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If you have the non X CPU you might as well

 

takes 2 minutes to overclock it in Ryzen master, just don't go over 1.4V for daily use.
 

 

But the asrock motherboard doesn't support overclocking right?

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

But the asrock motherboard doesn't support overclocking right?

B350 and B450 support overclocking and XFR

[halblah]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

B350 and B450 support overclocking and XFR

ok good, and do you think the stock cooler will be able to handle overclocking?

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Sb2333 said:

ok good, and do you think the stock cooler will be able to handle overclocking?

It'll be alright, but any of the $25 120mm AIOs will be better

[halblah]

9 hours ago, Streetguru said:

It'll be alright, but any of the $25 120mm AIOs will be better

Im just browsing some US sites to check if I can get cheaper prices than what we have in Canada, but I dont see the tax being added on at the end of an order? whys that.......