Haswell Upgrade?

[MasonCase]

Okay so currently I’m waiting for the new stuff to drop then I’m going to try and get my hands on an 8700k which will be a whole new platform for me. Right now I’m rocking and i5-4590 combo’d with a 1070 reference, 12 gb ddr3, and I want to say a Gigabyte GA-H81M-H.

 

I get bottlenecked on pretty much every game that I am playing (1080 at 144hz). Would it be worth upgrading to a 4770k or even 4790k?

 

I saw that I could sell the 4590 for ~90 usd and buy an 4770k for just under 200 usd as well as a 4790k for around 250 usd. Would that be a worthwhile trade for me while I wait for the new releases?

 

one more thing, I do have a cheap aio cooler so I could oc slightly better that a stock cooler. It’s the h60i from Corsair.

 

I was thinking if I did get that I would always have that around to keep for a good backup system.

[Fasauceome]

Hard to believe your CPU is bottlenecking, although could be bad multitasking support. I use a 4790k with a 1070 and am pleased to say it's not at all a bottleneck. Very good system for another couple years.

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, MasonCase said:

so I could oc slightly better that a stock cooler

You won't be overclocking on that motherboard. 

[MasonCase]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Hard to believe your CPU is bottlenecking, although could be bad multitasking support. I use a 4790k with a 1070 and am pleased to say it's not at all a bottleneck. Very good system for another couple years.

Being in a discord really hurts it and AAA games it is always maxed out 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, MasonCase said:

 

one more thing, I do have a cheap aio cooler so I could oc slightly better that a stock cooler. It’s the h60i from Corsair  

Side note: "slightly better than stock cooler" is blowing on the CPU with your mouth. Having an aftermarket cooler of just about any kind beats stock, but the h81 does not overclock as far as I'm aware. K-sku still relevant because it has higher base and boost clocks anyway.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, MasonCase said:

Being in a discord really hurts it and AAA games it is always maxed out 

Ah yes, discord would punish it with games open as well.

[MasonCase]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Side note: "slightly better than stock cooler" is blowing on the CPU with your mouth. Having an aftermarket cooler of just about any kind beats stock, but the h81 does not overclock as far as I'm aware. K-sku still relevant because it has higher base and boost clocks anyway.

Well if your 4790k performs as well as you say it does I just might have to grab one of those even without the oc and I can sit on it for even longer than I was planning before I upgrade. Thanks for you replies dude

[3 Lions]

1 minute ago, MasonCase said:

Well if your 4790k performs as well as you say it does I just might have to grab one of those even without the oc and I can sit on it for even longer than I was planning before I upgrade. Thanks for you replies dude

You should probably get the 4790 though considering the board you have. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, MasonCase said:

Well if your 4790k performs as well as you say it does I just might have to grab one of those even without the oc and I can sit on it for even longer than I was planning before I upgrade. Thanks for you replies dude

You also might want to see if the "all cores turbo" feature is available on your motherboard as a pseudo-overclock. Your water cooler should be able to keep up.

[MasonCase]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You should probably get the 4790 though considering the board you have. 

Non k?

[Froody129]

I would wait for 8 core 16 thread mainstream Intel chips or the higher core count (and hopefully higher clock) AMD chips coming at some point. We're in the middle of a CPU arms race so waiting a but more will yield good results imo

 

If you don't have active problems with the current platform I wouldn't bother 

[3 Lions]

Just now, MasonCase said:

Non k?

Yep, this one would make more sense for you. 

[SolarNova]

Indeed just upgrade to an i7 on your current platform, that should remove any bottlenecking from lack of cores.

No need to do a complete system change to a newer socket and DDR4.

[MasonCase]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Yep, this one would make more sense for you. 

I just did some looking up and even without and oc the k has a decent speed advantage for only 20 extra beans

[Froody129]

3 minutes ago, MasonCase said:

Well if your 4790k performs as well as you say it does I just might have to grab one of those even without the oc and I can sit on it for even longer than I was planning before I upgrade. Thanks for you replies dude

I have a 4770 and it's still a great chip with my 980ti. The locked CPUs aren't far behind the K models but are usually a lot cheaper

[Fasauceome]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Yep, this one would make more sense for you.

 

 

not necessarily, since there is the advantage if better base and boost on the k-sku parts

[3 Lions]

Just now, fasauceome said:

 

 

not necessarily, since there is the advantage if better base and boost on the k-sku parts

They aren't much slower though. 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

They aren't much slower though. 

He seems to have found a good deal on the k-sku parts

[Froody129]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

 

 

not necessarily, since there is the advantage if better base and boost on the k-sku parts

Not enough to make up for what is (usually!) a fair bit higher price 

[3 Lions]

Just now, fasauceome said:

He seems to have found a good deal on the k-sku parts

You've got to look at what makes sense and what is realistic, a 'K' CPU on a 'H' board doesn't make sense and isn't realistic. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You've got to look at what makes sense and what is realistic, a 'K' CPU on a 'H' board doesn't make sense and isn't realistic. 

Realistic? Not sure what you mean by that. "Makes sense?" Increased performance and a better chip overall. Seems sensible to me.

[MasonCase]

3 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You've got to look at what makes sense and what is realistic, a 'K' CPU on a 'H' board doesn't make sense and isn't realistic. 

What listings I’m finding it’s not much more, so if I’m going to keep it for a while I’m figuring I might as well spend a little more for a little more performance

[3 Lions]

Just now, MasonCase said:

What listings I’m finding it’s not much more, so if I’m going to keep it for a while I’m figuring I might as well spend a little more for a little more performance

No, save some money (even if it's a small amount saved) and get the locked version. 

[3 Lions]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Realistic? Not sure what you mean by that. "Makes sense?" Increased performance and a better chip overall. Seems sensible to me.

Say if he wants to overclock, he can't with his current board so if this is something he really wanted to do he'd have to spend more money on getting a Z87 or Z97 board. 

[Froody129]

8 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

You've got to look at what makes sense and what is realistic, a 'K' CPU on a 'H' board doesn't make sense and isn't realistic. 

It makes perfect sense if OP can get a good deal on one. Just looking at my used market they're usually a bit higher than the K versions 

 

2 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Say if he wants to overclock, he can't with his current board so if this is something he really wanted to do he'd have to spend more money on getting a Z87 or Z97 board. 

If it costs only a bit more they may as well just go for the K. They will also hold better resale value long term so you're not really paying much for it