i7 8700

[Caleb7766]

Hello, I have just recently installed the i7 8700 with a hyper 212 evo air cooler. I was wondering what would be a normal idle temp. Rn it is at anywhere from 37c to 39c at 4.3 boost clock speed. Thx for the help. 

[dizmo]

That's perfectly fine.

[Angel102]

that seems perfectly normal to me, it's a non-k version as well so it will only turbo rather than have a set overclock so you should be perfectly fine with that cooler.

 

Mine is running in the high 30s at idle even with the hot summer, so you'll be fine.

[Caleb7766]

Thx what about a max temp under load for awhile?

 

[Angel102]

1 minute ago, Caleb7766 said:

Thx what about a max temp under load for awhile?

 

would depend more on your own setup specifically, case design, fan setups, room temp and obviously games/programs you are using to push that load.

 

My own setup is giving temps in the mid 70s when gaming for a few hours and turbo going up to 4.6-4.7ghz, in terms of your cpu as long as you're not pushing 90-100C you shouldn't see any long term problems

[Caleb7766]

kk thx

[Angel102]

no worries, and congrats on the new toys.

[Caleb7766]

yup excited

[Jurrunio]

that's too low. Reaching 4.3GHz doesnt mean it's at its max heat output, you have to push the CPU usage high as well. Try run Prime95 smallFFT test.

[Angel102]

21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's too low. Reaching 4.3GHz doesnt mean it's at its max heat output, you have to push the CPU usage high as well. Try run Prime95 smallFFT test.

to what end exactly? Running a synthetic unrealistic benchmark won't change anything or say anything they don't already know. You can't realistically overclock an 8700 anyway so you don't need to to do it at all, and the turbo  will be controlled by the motherboard and thermals anyway so it's pretty pointless unless you have a glitchy system and you are troubleshooting.

 

running in the high 30s at idle is perfectly normal for pretty much any cpu in a bog standard air cooling setup, it's certainly not too low.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Angel102 said:

to what end exactly? Running a synthetic unrealistic benchmark won't change anything or say anything they don't already know. You can't realistically overclock an 8700 anyway so you don't need to to do it at all, and the turbo  will be controlled by the motherboard and thermals anyway so it's pretty pointless unless you have a glitchy system and you are troubleshooting.

 

running in the high 30s at idle is perfectly normal for pretty much any cpu in a bog standard air cooling setup, it's certainly not too low.

What I'm trying (and somewhat failed) to say is that idle temps means nothing. It's closely related to ambient temperature and does not tell whether the cooler is installed appropriately.

[O9B0666]

4 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

What I'm trying (and somewhat failed) to say is that idle temps means nothing. It's closely related to ambient temperature and does not tell whether the cooler is installed appropriately.

An Evo 212 is going to handle a 8700 non k just fine. Theirs no reason to get more programs and run tests to figure it out lol a stock cooler can handle a non k so this will be better. 

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, O9B0666 said:

An Evo 212 is going to handle a 8700 non k just fine. Theirs no reason to get more programs and run tests to figure it out

I didnt ask him to run that for long, just a minute will find out whether the cooler is installed properly, say the fan's plugged in, thermal paste applied adequately, mounting pressure is sufficient etc. Idle temps with just a heatsink sitting on top of the CPU, no paste or screws used, will be the same as a properly installed one.

 

1 hour ago, O9B0666 said:

lol a stock cooler can handle a non k

take that back, that's false

 

[Angel102]

12 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

What I'm trying (and somewhat failed) to say is that idle temps means nothing. It's closely related to ambient temperature and does not tell whether the cooler is installed appropriately.

haha no problems mate, just got the wrong end of the stick myself regarding stresstesting, a hyper 212 should be perfectly fine with that cpu, and as I mentioned earlier as long as temps while gaming/rendering/whatever they plan on doing don't starting hitting certain thresholds there shouldn't be any real problems on their end as you say unless it's a bad mount, but typically they show up pretty quickly anyway even in normal use.

[Angel102]

6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I didnt ask him to run that for long, just a minute will find out whether the cooler is installed properly, say the fan's plugged in, thermal paste applied adequately, mounting pressure is sufficient etc. Idle temps with just a heatsink sitting on top of the CPU, no paste or screws used, will be the same as a properly installed one.

 

take that back, that's false

 

stock coolers is one thing Intel really should learn from AMD on, afterall most people will only ever use a stock cooler, be it a self build or a pre-build piece of rubbish from a mass-manufacturer like acer or dell and the like, just like the toothpaste they use in their chips it seems counter-intuitive to me that Intel don't improve these areas for much better thermals right from the start, as it's their reputation and performance that takes the hit when thermal throttling starts.

[Jurrunio]

7 hours ago, Angel102 said:

stock coolers is one thing Intel really should learn from AMD on, afterall most people will only ever use a stock cooler, be it a self build or a pre-build piece of rubbish from a mass-manufacturer like acer or dell and the like, just like the toothpaste they use in their chips it seems counter-intuitive to me that Intel don't improve these areas for much better thermals right from the start, as it's their reputation and performance that takes the hit when thermal throttling starts.

if it's not intel, we wont be having so many cheap and weak coolers out there

[Zeitec]

On 7/28/2018 at 7:20 PM, Caleb7766 said:

Hello, I have just recently installed the i7 8700 with a hyper 212 evo air cooler. I was wondering what would be a normal idle temp. Rn it is at anywhere from 37c to 39c at 4.3 boost clock speed. Thx for the help. 

That's okay. I needed an NH D15 to keep my 8700 non k cool under load (it really does require 1.24volts to be stable. Any less crashes under heavy load. Go figure). However you may be fine with a Hyper 212. What does your 8700 reach under heavy workloads? As long as it sticks below 90 you should be fine.