Too Many Options

[pinksnowmanshandle]

@DrMacintosh I mean I don't even have to get an iPad. It'd be nice. I think it'd make taking notes easier than using a laptop. but I *dont* have to.

In that case with edu discounts I might be able to get and that pro bundle..

 

I'm only looking at $75 more for the same spec mbp w/o edu discounts and that bundle.

 

If Apple needs a student ID, I'd probably have one by the time I had the money to do anything anyways.

 

For @Rain7 and @TLCH723

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this is with education discounts and not including MS Office or 365.

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On the flip just the macbook pro w/ that Pro Bundle for Edu

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Same spec macbook w/o  pro bundle for edu and therefore no edu discount

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w/o pro bundle but still edu discount

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Yeah it's not a 100% fair comparison, and the SB2 has the function of the iPad and MacBook all in one.

But software I could very well get a reasonable amount of use out of doesn't hurt to have either, and again a video editor.

I could go up to

Yeah... It's a little harder to justify a more fairer spec 15" mbp even with edu discounts..

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Yes, I know with the 15" I get like a GTX 1060 6GB

But I have a desktop I can play games with. I'd even wager to say I could save $90 on the 15" mbp and get the stock RX Pro 550 and be fine for tf2

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[Rain7]

1 hour ago, pinksnowbirdie said:

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All I'm seeing is you trying to justify a choice you already have in mind and you can deny it all you want but hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

 

With that said, there are far better laptops value-wise than the mbp and surface such as:

1. MateBook X Pro

2. HP Spectre x360

3. Xps (I'd almost never recommend this since it's pretty pricey as well but compared to the mbp and surface, this is a better value)

I'll let you do the homework of getting the performance/specs:dollar ratio with each laptop. And yes they all have student discounts for students with .edu mails.

 

This will probably be my last attempt to help as there's no more point in trying to reason with someone already fixated on something.

It would probably be better if you post on the apple forums instead so you actually get the response you want rather than the response you need.

[DrMacintosh]

4 hours ago, pinksnowbirdie said:

Yes, I know with the 15" I get like a GTX 1060 6GB

But I have a desktop I can play games with. I'd even wager to say I could save $90 on the 15" mbp and get the stock RX Pro 550 and be fine for tf2

The Pro 550 would definitely be fine at that stuff. I mean the Iris graphics could do it to just not very well compared to anything dedicated lol. 

[TLCH723]

I am still confused. Why do you need 2 copies of office? A copy of office can legally be use on a Desktop and a laptop. And if you stop using on a machine you can transfer to your other computer.

Also there are many free alternative, google doc/slides, libre office, Mac page/keynote, etc

[pinksnowmanshandle]

5 hours ago, Rain7 said:

All I'm seeing is you trying to justify a choice you already have in mind and you can deny it all you want but hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

 

With that said, there are far better laptops value-wise than the mbp and surface such as:

1. MateBook X Pro

2. HP Spectre x360

3. Xps (I'd almost never recommend this since it's pretty pricey as well but compared to the mbp and surface, this is a better value)

I'll let you do the homework of getting the performance/specs:dollar ratio with each laptop. And yes they all have student discounts for students with .edu mails.

 

This will probably be my last attempt to help as there's no more point in trying to reason with someone already fixated on something.

It would probably be better if you post on the apple forums instead so you actually get the response you want rather than the response you need.

I was wanting someone who's maybe used say the mbp and/or the sb2 and tell me what their experience was.

 

As I said, I don't have a problem with the SB2 but if no one says anything about their experience with it and how it performs and what not, I may as well go with something that's a little well more known and used.

 

I acknowledged I came into this with a little bias but if there was some quirk with the mbp or that it couldnt handle tf2 at all, then I would be all over the SB2. I don't need a GTX 1050 in a laptop, I have an RX 470 in my desktop. I don't need a 4 core cpu in my laptop if it's 2c/4t or even 2c/2t but iirc ULV i5s and i7s are 2c/4t, I have a Ryzen 7 1700 in my desktop.

But if the i5s and i7s in the mbp couldnt handle tf2 which has outgrown its fork of the source engine and uses hardware poorly, then the SB2 would be an easier choice.

 

Yes, something can be said about the surface pen and being able to use it like a tablet. so it combines the MacBook pro into an iPad Pro essentially and yes it's cheaper when you consider adding the iPad but I don't need the tablet part, sure it'd be nice.

 

Perhaps I am thinking in only absolutes, either the macbook OR the SB2, sure there's other options but I left it to those two. of the two, I didnt get anyone saying WHY the SB2 would be better OTHER than combining the two functions I mentioned above. It comes out to be more expensive, yes It has a quad core i7 and a GTX 1050, but for what I need good integrated graphics and a CPU worth its weight is fine for the occasion I'm not home and I wanna play tf2.

 

That's the problem with my current Bristol Ridge A10, it's not. Either because HP suffocates it or because AMD didnt really paint the best picture about Bristol Ridge when it came out. I knew it was Bulldozer based, but I was hoping on the iGPU side of things maybe things would've been a little better, but it seems not really.

1 hour ago, TLCH723 said:

I am still confused. Why do you need 2 copies of office? A copy of office can legally be use on a Desktop and a laptop. And if you stop using on a machine you can transfer to your other computer.

Also there are many free alternative, google doc/slides, libre office, Mac page/keynote, etc

1 license 1 install, yeah?
 

Also I want the syncing features that iWork and Office have now, I dont wanna go back to google drive because it's a website, I'd rather a dedicated program.

[pinksnowmanshandle]

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

The Pro 550 would definitely be fine at that stuff. I mean the Iris graphics could do it to just not very well compared to anything dedicated lol. 

yea, for sure. It was just trying to make a point that from what I see is sure, objectively the SB2 is better.

But what do I want and need?
I'm seeing the Apple option filling that a lot better.

 

I forget this forum doesn't like to rationally support why something is better just because muh better specs and windows. Like just because specs might be better and it runs Windows doesn't make automatically better.

The i5 SB2 only has the option for 128GB or 256GB and no option other than 8GB of ram.

 

Obviously I had a little bias coming in, i've been wanting to mess around with macOS again for awhile. Hell maybe when I get my mid 2010 mbp revived and updated from Mountain Lion to High Sierra, I may change my mind.

 

the c2d might actually handle iMovie reasonably well fwiw, I doubt it. But I'm willing to see the other side of stuff from where my own biases may lie.

 

For what I want and need I wanna get what's best for that and if there was a clear cut reason not to get the mbp for some flaw it may have or a potential inability to do something that I'm more concerned about, then sure. I really don't have anything invested in the Apple ecosystem.

My phone is an S8+, I have two windows computers. I could care less about the Apple ecosystem if there was certain problems one of their products had. If it doesnt need to do what I want and need it to, it makes my choice easier. The SB2 becomes more attractive.