Any Build Recommendations?

[Doja]

I am looking to put together a gaming/streaming pc on a $1000 budget. I am open to buying a complete rig, or buying each component separately. Does anyone have any suggestions? Budget is flexible.  

[Jurrunio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fCdDzY

 

This one is my best value build, though it stretches past the budget a bit far ($1200).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xkJfmq

 

To keep things within budget, I nerfed the graphics card.

[Doja]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fCdDzY

 

This one is my best value build, though it stretches past the budget a bit far ($1200).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xkJfmq

 

To keep things within budget, I nerfed the graphics card.

Do you reckon that either of those builds could stream heavy resource demanding games without issue? That is my ultimate goal. I would rather purchase part by part and go way over the budget than invest in something that wont meet my expectations. With that being said, I would like to only go as high as I need to go. 

 

Thank you for taking the time to help me out bud, I appreciate it.

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

if you can stretch the budget abit:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($155.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($71.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Toshiba - Product Series:MG03ACA 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($412.51 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1022.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-03 03:16 EDT-0400

[XxMLGMASTERxX]

i would switch the ryzen 5 with a ryzen 7 1700 they will be alot better for straming

[Doja]

And skimping out on the motherboard wont cause any bottleneck issues? 

[Peskanova]

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xkJfmq

I just made yesterday a build like that but i rather to pick a 2600 instead a 1600 

and if you have some 1060 6gb at 300$ i think its better than a 580 8gb at 280-300

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Doja said:

Do you reckon that either of those builds could stream heavy resource demanding games without issue? That is my ultimate goal. I would rather purchase part by part and go way over the budget than invest in something that wont meet my expectations. With that being said, I would like to only go as high as I need to go. 

 

Thank you for taking the time to help me out bud, I appreciate it.

 

Hmm so you stream big AAA games rather than easy to run games like csgo? then my lists need to change.

 

The over the budget list : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2C8Jkd

 

The within budget list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6BcMZ

 

The advantage of having 8 CPU cores rather than 6 is to make sure the streaming software (which has to encode videos on the fly) doesnt take up CPU time for the game (or at least reduce CPU time taken). Most games dont use more than 6 cores at this point, which means there are 2 spare cores for the streaming software to use freely

 

Another option for streaming is GPU video encoding. The disadvantage here is unlike CPU-based streaming, there is less customization options and often lower quality. The advantage is that the performance hit is lower. Since Ryzen 1700 is cheap, I prefer CPU-based streaming.

 

When GPU is not handling streaming, it should allow 1080p 60fps gaming. The RX 580 cant do more than this, but the 1070ti can hit 90fps even in demanding games and high graphics settings.

 

As for the motherboard, newer Ryzen 8 cores have a tendency to increase power draw compared to the old CPUs, that's why I didnt pick cheaper boards. If you can spend more though, buying a $200 Asus Crosshair 6 Hero isnt a bad investment.

 

As for the case, I'd rather pay more for a well-built case with good cooling since you can practically use the same box till it rusts away.

[Herman Mcpootis]

21 minutes ago, Doja said:

And skimping out on the motherboard wont cause any bottleneck issues? 

the X370 Pro4 board is still decent enough to handle an overclocked 1700.

[Doja]

14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Hmm so you stream big AAA games rather than easy to run games like csgo? then my lists need to change.

 

The over the budget list : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2C8Jkd

 

The within budget list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P6BcMZ

 

The advantage of having 8 CPU cores rather than 6 is to make sure the streaming software (which has to encode videos on the fly) doesnt take up CPU time for the game (or at least reduce CPU time taken). Most games dont use more than 6 cores at this point, which means there are 2 spare cores for the streaming software to use freely

 

Another option for streaming is GPU video encoding. The disadvantage here is unlike CPU-based streaming, there is less customization options and often lower quality. The advantage is that the performance hit is lower. Since Ryzen 1700 is cheap, I prefer CPU-based streaming.

 

When GPU is not handling streaming, it should allow 1080p 60fps gaming. The RX 580 cant do more than this, but the 1070ti can hit 90fps even in demanding games and high graphics settings.

 

As for the motherboard, newer Ryzen 8 cores have a tendency to increase power draw compared to the old CPUs, that's why I didnt pick cheaper boards. If you can spend more though, buying a $200 Asus Crosshair 6 Hero isnt a bad investment.

 

As for the case, I'd rather pay more for a well-built case with good cooling since you can practically use the same box till it rusts away.

Thank you for the in-depth explanation, You're a legend. I am not to technologically savvy, so this definitely helped me better understand what I am aiming for. 

[Doja]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtW38Y

 

This is what I am currently running and it does not fare well at all...

 

I spent $200 on a motherboard with a dead platform. No hopes in upgrading so I figure it's time to start over.

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Doja said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtW38Y

 

This is what I am currently running and it does not fare well at all...

 

I spent $200 on a motherboard with a dead platform. No hopes in upgrading so I figure it's time to start over.

why... I thought FX is known to be a bad platform right from the start when it goes against Sandy Bridge from Intel?

[Amazonsucks]

30 minutes ago, Doja said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jtW38Y

 

This is what I am currently running and it does not fare well at all...

 

I spent $200 on a motherboard with a dead platform. No hopes in upgrading so I figure it's time to start over.

To be fair, no consumer desktop has a hope of a real upgrade if you go with a higher or even mid range CPU to begin with. They keep the socket for 2 generations usually, and between those two its usually a small % change. 

 

If you got an LGA1151 pentium and then an i7 thats a different story though. Its not like its in Intel, AMD or board makers interests to keep a small socket platform around for a long time. With servers its totally different and you will get large perf increases and changes on the same platform because those CPUs can cost thousands to tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars for a single machine, plus thousands more for memory.

[Doja]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102462

 

I stumbled across this, dem savings lol. Would anyone recommend going for this instead?