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So I built my computer about two years ago and I was wondering if there's any noticable upgrades I could make on a low budget about $150.聽

Amd fd8350frhkbox 8 core

Gigabyte ga-990fxa-ud3 mobO

Asus GeForce gtx 1060 oc edition boost clock 1809 mhm

16gb of ddr3 (also reviewing the order I got this 2x8 ram for 75 dollars and now it cost 147 dollars? Is there a shortage of ram?)

Does a water cooler make that huge of a differance? I've seen some for like 60 bucks I just have the stock cooler

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If you don't have a SSD yet, I'd recommed to get one and to reinstall Windows on it.

That will greatly improve your system's performance.

A watercooler doesn't make sense here, especially if it's that cheap. I'd rather get a good air cooler from Noctua, be Quiet or聽Scythe for example.

Then you could possibly overclock your CPU.

The Scythe Mugen 4 and 5 are excellent air coolers for their price and beat out most other coolers on the market.

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SSD if you dont have one. This system needs a 2200g, cheap B350 chipset mobo with 4 memory slots and 2x4GB DDR4 kit most, but you dont have enough budget for them.

Yes there is a RAM shortage, that's why you need aboit $250 to do the upgrade mentioned above.

No good upgrades for you needs water cooler. They are far more efficient than FX CPU you have.

CPU:i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software)--> 1.47V at the back of the socketMotherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15RAM:聽Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000)聽GPU:聽Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream聽vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps))聽SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GBPSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold聽Case:聽Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1聽exhaust聽Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panelKeyboard:Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps聽Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Model: HP Omen 17聽17-an110ca聽CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA聽undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM:聽8+8GB DDR4-2400聽18-17-17-39聽2T聽Storage:聽HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD聽+ Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD,聽128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2聽SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally,聽1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172)聽left outside聽Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168聽Multi-thread: 833聽

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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If your going to upgrade, I recommend a new CPU, motherboard and ram. FX series chips consume a lot of power and are beaten in games by Ryzen 3's today.

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19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

SSD if you dont have one. This system needs a 2200g, cheap B350 chipset mobo with 4 memory slots and 2x4GB DDR4 kit most, but you dont have enough budget for them.

Yes there is a RAM shortage, that's why you need aboit $250 to do the upgrade mentioned above.

No good upgrades for you needs water cooler. They are far more efficient than FX CPU you have.

So I need 2x4gb plus my 2x8gb? I thought ram had to be the same, and is the 2200g the name of the motherboard?

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29 minutes ago, Snowfirebeast said:

Is there a shortage of ram?

Yep, you're lucky you got those

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It's an artificial shortage, but it is a shortage none the less. Let's all take a moment to thank the chinese government for suing Samsung, Micron and those other guys.

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36 minutes ago, Snowfirebeast said:

So I need 2x4gb plus my 2x8gb? I thought ram had to be the same, and is the 2200g the name of the motherboard?

Lol I'm recommending you to drop AM3+ platform for AM4. 2200g's full name is Ryzen 3 2200G, which sits on AM4 socket with 3 available chipsets, A320, B350 and X370. It uses DDR4 RAM rather than the DDR3 used by your FX chip.

As for motherboard, get a $60-80 B350 board. They are cheap and allows overclocking.

CPU:i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software)--> 1.47V at the back of the socketMotherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15RAM:聽Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000)聽GPU:聽Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream聽vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps))聽SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GBPSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold聽Case:聽Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1聽exhaust聽Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panelKeyboard:Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps聽Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Model: HP Omen 17聽17-an110ca聽CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA聽undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM:聽8+8GB DDR4-2400聽18-17-17-39聽2T聽Storage:聽HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD聽+ Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD,聽128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2聽SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally,聽1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172)聽left outside聽Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168聽Multi-thread: 833聽

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Lol I'm recommending you to drop AM3+ platform for AM4. 2200g's full name is Ryzen 3 2200G, which sits on AM4 socket with 3 available chipsets, A320, B350 and X370. It uses DDR4 RAM rather than the DDR3 used by your FX chip.

As for motherboard, get a $60-80 B350 board. They are cheap and allows overclocking.

Couldn't I just keep the ddr3 ram. Is 8gb of ddr4 really better than 16gb of ddr3? I'm not huge into over clocking since I'm fairly new to the pc world. Also not sure what fx chip is. Googling only brought up starfox?

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Just now, Snowfirebeast said:

Couldn't I just keep the ddr3 ram. Is 8gb of ddr4 really better than 16gb of ddr3? I'm not huge into over clocking since I'm fairly new to the pc world. Also not sure what fx chip is. Googling only brought up starfox?

Never mind the fx part im聽聽an idiot lol.聽

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2 minutes ago, Snowfirebeast said:

Couldn't I just keep the ddr3 ram. Is 8gb of ddr4 really better than 16gb of ddr3?

Not the problem of performance, but Ryzen simply does not let you use DDR3 on it. It's DDR4 only.

CPU:i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software)--> 1.47V at the back of the socketMotherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15RAM:聽Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000)聽GPU:聽Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream聽vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps))聽SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GBPSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold聽Case:聽Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1聽exhaust聽Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panelKeyboard:Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps聽Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Model: HP Omen 17聽17-an110ca聽CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA聽undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM:聽8+8GB DDR4-2400聽18-17-17-39聽2T聽Storage:聽HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD聽+ Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD,聽128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2聽SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally,聽1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172)聽left outside聽Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168聽Multi-thread: 833聽

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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31 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Not the problem of performance, but Ryzen simply does not let you use DDR3 on it. It's DDR4 only.

Oh. Is there an amd 4 processor聽that does or is that what the 4 stands for lol. What ive read doesnt show much of a differance from ddr3 to ddr4. my laptop has the gtx 1060 with the i7 7700q and 8gb of ddr4 and I see way more stutters and slowdowns than with my pc build. I knowbthe 1060s arnt the same but theres only supposed to be a small percentage of difference from what I found when researching my laptop. I hate to try and sell this ram for a loss just to buy half the amount and have a slower rig. (Also this is based off the very little i know.)

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28 minutes ago, Snowfirebeast said:

Oh. Is there an amd 4 processor聽that does or is that what the 4 stands for lol. What ive read doesnt show much of a differance from ddr3 to ddr4. my laptop has the gtx 1060 with the i7 7700q and 8gb of ddr4 and I see way more stutters and slowdowns than with my pc build. I knowbthe 1060s arnt the same but theres only supposed to be a small percentage of difference from what I found when researching my laptop. I hate to try and sell this ram for a loss just to buy half the amount and have a slower rig. (Also this is based off the very little i know.)

4 means it's newer than 3.

Then your laptop has a problem. Overheating? Using up all the RAM it has?

CPU:i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software)--> 1.47V at the back of the socketMotherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz)CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15RAM:聽Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000)聽GPU:聽Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream聽vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps))聽SSD:Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GBPSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold聽Case:聽Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1聽exhaust聽Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panelKeyboard:Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps聽Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

Model: HP Omen 17聽17-an110ca聽CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA聽undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM:聽8+8GB DDR4-2400聽18-17-17-39聽2T聽Storage:聽HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD聽+ Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD,聽128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2聽SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally,聽1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172)聽left outside聽Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168聽Multi-thread: 833聽

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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  • 1 month later...

Just an update and concern. I got a new case, asrock ab350 pro 4 mobo ryzen 2600x, 16gb of nighthawk ddr4 ram 3200mhz and the same dual 6gb 1800mhz gpu and performance is not good. Divers are up to date and Temps all seem fine but this thing is slugging with games at just 1080 and I'm have trouble just moving my mouse around the screen and using the keyboard. Any ideas? I'm gonna put the ram back to 2400 and see if that does anything

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