My new PC, help ?

[George_Bud]

I want a new PC, and I am not sure what to choose, AMD or Intel. I know AMD has more cores than Intel but Intel is faster ( in my opinion ). I dont plan to build it now, but somewhere in October or later. 

 

There are rumors that Intel is going to release something new in the fall, but I dont know for sure. 

Anyway... I just need something to watch youtube and stuff like that, so nothing intense for the GPU ( i will add that later ).

This Pc that I want to build should be for working ( mostly ), like video and photo editing. A mITX or a mATX would be nice. Nothing big. The price will be somewhere around 500$-1000$ ( without the gpu, I have a GTs 450 to use until I buy a more powerful GPU ).

I will add a more powerful GPU later when I get more money. 

 

So, any idea, suggestions ? AMD or Intel, how much RAM, storage ?

Oh and... There are some games I would like to play but I dont play as much as I used to. I will wait for Elder Scrolls 6 ( or Skyrim 2 ).

[RobFRaschke]

How much do we get to spend? And what kind of video editing do you do?

[George_Bud]

Just now, RobFRaschke said:

How much do we get to spend? And what kind of video editing do you do?

Like I said, I dont want to buy a gpu. I have a GTS 450 at the moment and I will use that until I can afford a 1080 or better. 

As price goes for CPU, Ram, Storage, Case, PSU, Dvd player, monitor. ( I hope I didnt forget anything ). the price should be somewhere around 500-1000$.

[Semper]

5 minutes ago, RobFRaschke said:

How much do we get to spend? And what kind of video editing do you do?

His price range is $500-1000

We do need to know the primary use though (as in production video editing, or small "home movie" video editing, ETC)

 

[George_Bud]

1 minute ago, Semper said:

His price range is $500-1000

We do need to know the primary use though.

 

Video ( 4k ) and photo editing. But that will only happen when I get my better GPU, until that, Youtube and internet surfing. 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

5 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Video ( 4k ) and photo editing. But that will only happen when I get my better GPU, until that, Youtube and internet surfing. 

you can actually have a system with a GPU in a mATX package for under $1000 ($970)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($86.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($278.80 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($136.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $970.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 05:22 EDT-0400

[Semper]

10 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Video ( 4k ) and photo editing. But that will only happen when I get my better GPU, until that, Youtube and internet surfing. 

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to build a complete build at the moment (just found out i've got to hop off for a shift) but my base level recommendation for what's currently available is going to be a Ryzen 7 (or Threadripper, if you'd like to spring for it - though they're going to eat a pretty penny). Ryzen has been doing fairly well for production applications, especially when considering performance per dollar.

32gb of RAM
and a 500+gb SSD

[Jurrunio]

Ask when you're ready to spend the money. Good advice now will be outdated by then

[RobFRaschke]

Ok, but is that $500 with some wiggle room, I might be able to save up to $1000 in the next 4 months, or so, to try and get to the $1000 point if I have to?

 

4K video editing is no joke. GPU acceleration can help a lot in the encoding phases, but in real time, you need real CPU power for the editing process itself. $1000 is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but if you need a case, powersupply, motherboard, cpu, ram, ssd, hdd, and operating system for $1000(no keyboard and mouse?) then you really only have $800 in the tower, and if this is company critical video you can't afford to loose, you're down to $600 max after your redundant and backed up storage. A decent case and power supply that are going to actually last should cost about $100. So we've got $500 left for CPU, motherboard, ram and boot drive. Memory is insane right now, probably as bad as GPU pricing, so even a single 8GB stick is going to set you back bare minimum of ~$65. Same for a reasonable good SATA SSD. We're down to $370 for motherboard and cpu, if you're using the stock CPU cooler. That's Ryzen 2400G/1500 or i3-8100 territory.

 

Admittedly I'm backloading your cost of storage. a single 1TB drive will work perfectly, right up until it doesn't. PLEASE at least get an external 1TB drive to back up mission critical data to. Please.

[George_Bud]

2 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 

Is the Ryzen 5 1500X still worth it ? Isn't the there a new Ryzen out ?

 

3 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($86.98 @ Newegg)

I think 8 GB is not enough nowadays. Maybe 16 GB.

[George_Bud]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Ask when you're ready to spend the money. Good advice now will be outdated by then

I know. I will make a new post when I have the money. Now I am just planing.  

[George_Bud]

4 minutes ago, RobFRaschke said:

Admittedly I'm backloading your cost of storage. a single 1TB drive will work perfectly, right up until it doesn't. PLEASE at least get an external 1TB drive to back up mission critical data to. Please.

I know prices are high right now. 

Yea, I have a 1 TB external drive. I just got my laptop recently hacked.  I lost some things. But most of my photos and video and work is still here after a hard drive format and deep scan it.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

9 minutes ago, George_Bud said:

Is the Ryzen 5 1500X still worth it ? Isn't the there a new Ryzen out ?

 

I think 8 GB is not enough nowadays. Maybe 16 GB.

ok changing it up! wait a 1500X is basically on par to a 2400G in performance. Also you won't have to Update the BIOS if you want to use a X370/B350 board (X470 are expensive and B450 are not yet out).

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.39 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4GB AORUS 4G Video Card  ($227.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($136.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $983.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 05:35 EDT-0400

 

[George_Bud]

3 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($278.80 @ Amazon) 

Well, I GPU is not important right now. So this is optional. I will wait to get a 1080 or better. Until then I will use my trusty GTS 450.  

4 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)

 

4 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($136.99 @ Amazon) 

The case and monitor, I think there will be some blackfriday discount in my aria or something like that. Maybe I can save a bit of money there. 

[WickedStarfish]

generally a rule i have always applied to my computer making is if its under $1000 its just better to buy a prebuilt that will manage most things then spend what you have left on a GPU. (I am from Australia, and everything is super shitty price wise so have a look around at the different prices within the prebuilt area and the cost of building yourself especially when its at the lower end of the market)

[George_Bud]

2 minutes ago, WickedStarfish said:

generally a rule i have always applied to my computer making is if its under $1000 its just better to buy a prebuilt that will manage most things then spend what you have left on a GPU. (I am from Australia, and everything is super shitty price wise so have a look around at the different prices within the prebuilt area and the cost of building yourself especially when its at the lower end of the market)

Nah man. Prebuilt here, I dont like it. You mostly get nvidia 760 or you get a 960 but a shit cpu then, and ram is 8 gb. Not bad on the ram part but still, it is the slower version. 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, George_Bud said:

Well, I GPU is not important right now. So this is optional. I will wait to get a 1080 or better. Until then I will use my trusty GTS 450.  

 

The case and monitor, I think there will be some blackfriday discount in my aria or something like that. Maybe I can save a bit of money there. 

oh wait i have changed the case again in that post, to a Meshify C mini and the board (because you want mATX, i forgot to change it up)

 

Ok so you can either ditch the RX 570 and get an Asus X470-Pro with a Ryzen 5 2600X (makes it over budget, so optional) or keep it and sell your GT 450

[RobFRaschke]

Save up for your video card, and see what kind of deals you can get on a monitor.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($27.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H370M D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.23 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($70.69 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($70.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $770.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 05:56 EDT-0400