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I'm building my first PC and unfortuntely have a pretty low budget of £600. I'm aware this is pretty low and i was thinking of buying PC Specialist's 'PC Specialist Vanquish Centurion 1050TI Gaming PC' for £599. However, all i keep seeing is 'you can build a better PC for that money lol idiot' but NO ONE IS TELLING ME HOW. using PC part picker it still comes out as more expensive? and with my limited knowledge i can't seem to get anything cheaper even though apparently its so easy! I'd love to get involved in building a PC but i dont have the funds to exceed 600 :(. any help would be appreciated a lot : D

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Whats the PC that you were looking at? It is likely right now that the prebuilt is probable to be cheaper.

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Is this the one you're looking at?

 

https://www.ebuyer.com/797345-pc-specialist-vanquish-centurion-1050ti-gaming-pc-pcs-d1224788

 

 

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1 minute ago, Slottr said:

Whats the PC that you were looking at? It is likely right now that the prebuilt is probable to be cheaper.

Yea, now it a horrible time to build a computer. GPU & Ram prices are through the roof. I would wait until the prices go back to normal to buy a computer.

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1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Is this the one you're looking at?

 

https://www.ebuyer.com/797345-pc-specialist-vanquish-centurion-1050ti-gaming-pc-pcs-d1224788

that's pretty decent. i'd add an ssd, but still.. 

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Something like this will perform much better in games, the motherboard and PSU are much better, it has faster RAM, it has a 250GB SSD and a 2TB HDD and it has a nicer case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£65.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF B350M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£74.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£47.20 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  (£189.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 400W 80+ Silver Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £603.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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Depending on your quality settings that you'd like to hit you could go with this and then upgrade with a beefy GPU down the line. I would suggest buying the motherboard locally though and making sure it's got the latest BIOS for the Raven Ridge APUs.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£56.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.79 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Bronze 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£40.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£25.39 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £424.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 20:25 BST+0100

 

or for a little more GPU horsepower:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£127.19 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£65.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£56.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.79 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Bronze 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£40.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (£25.39 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £473.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 20:27 BST+0100

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9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 400W 80+ Silver Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.49 @ Amazon UK) 

that's really weak.. 

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK) 

...why? isn't 2400mhz enough? 

@Lurick same question

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1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

that's really weak.. 

...why? isn't 2400mhz enough? 

@Lurick same question

400 Watts is more than enough for even a 1060 6GB system.

 

Ryzen infinity fabric benefits from faster RAM and if you can get 3000MHz RAM for literally a few dollars more than 2400MHz RAM it's stupid not to go that route and get the guarantee of the RAM hitting those speeds instead of getting 2400MHz RAM and hoping you'll get it to 3000MHz

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Just now, Lurick said:

Ryzen infinity fabric benefits from faster RAM and if you can get 3000MHz RAM for literally a few dollars more than 2400MHz RAM it's stupid not to go that route and get the guarantee of the RAM hitting those speeds instead of getting 2400MHz RAM and hoping you'll get it to 3000MHz

oh yeah, forgot about that. i'm not very familiar with ryzen sorry. 

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1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

that's really weak.. 

...why? isn't 2400mhz enough? 

@Lurick same question

The PSU is the best at its price, and 400W is still more than enough to power a GTX 1080 system. The cheaper options are all group regulated and louder. The next actual upgrade would be the Formula 450W for £60. 

The price difference between 2400MHz RAM and 3000MHz RAM is smaller than the performance difference on Ryzen. 

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Just now, firelighter487 said:

oh yeah, forgot about that. i'm not very familiar with ryzen sorry. 

All good, it takes a lot of drilling it into your head at first to not forget about the infinity fabric bit :P

Otherwise, if it was an Intel build on a non-OC chip I would definitely go for 2400MHz RAM :)

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