450W AMD Build

[Guest]

I am looking to do an upgrade RAM, APU, and motherboard wise while still keeping staying under 450W and increase general performance under $350 USD with a case change?  I have a Kaveri setup right now. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Probably by getting a Ryzen 2200G or 2400G.

 

Kaveri was a pretty bad platform, I hated it so much...

[Guest]

I have been looking into Ryzen, need to look at 2400 specs

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, covfefelake said:

I have been looking into Ryzen, need to look at 2400 specs

It's a pretty good CPU. Got a decent iGPU so you can do some gaming, and is pretty competent. Probably going to be your best option.

[Guest]

Sounds good then, I’m tired of Beseige killing my system when I make nukes on there. 

[Jurrunio]

Make sure you use high frequency memory, with multiple sticks. Ryzen, especially the APUs, loves memory bandwidth.

[Guest]

Already priced the upgrades, just under $180 USD for mobo, apu, and ram with Amazon card, leaves enough cash to find a water cooler for the APU. 

[NelizMastr]

4 minutes ago, covfefelake said:

Already priced the upgrades, just under $180 USD for mobo, apu, and ram with Amazon card, leaves enough cash to find a water cooler for the APU. 

Use an air cooler instead. The 2400G won't be overclockable enough to warrant liquid cooling. 

[Guest]

I understand where you are coming from on the most economical build for what has been bought, but looking forward for 18-28 months on an APU upgrade. 

[Guest]

Afford what I know now that won’t hurt me so I can upgrade later to awesomeness 

[Supportsneedlove]

46 minutes ago, covfefelake said:

Afford what I know now that won’t hurt me so I can upgrade later to awesomeness 

The AM4 socket is said to be supported for multiple years, you can slot in a more powerful CPU later as well as a graphics card.

[.Apex.]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Probably by getting a Ryzen 2200G or 2400G.

 

Kaveri was a pretty bad platform, I hated it so much...

well to be honest every CPU since 2011 till Ryzen was really really bad (except Bristol Ridge was "okay"), all the FX crap and APU's, inefficient and hot as hell, complete nightmare. 
and they had no improvements over the years, AMD just kept rebadging the same CPU's over and over and over and over.

[SliceT]

2 hours ago, covfefelake said:

Afford what I know now that won’t hurt me so I can upgrade later to awesomeness 

Make sure the motherboard is recent , I bought a MSI B350 and didn't had support for the new CPU, ended up going to the shop and replace for a Asrock they had in stock and worked.

[EsaT]

6 hours ago, covfefelake said:

I understand where you are coming from on the most economical build for what has been bought, but looking forward for 18-28 months on an APU upgrade. 

Cheap and small water (pipe) coolers aren't really more powerfull than good cheaper heatpipe coolers.

Besides having additional noise source in pump, which is also single catastrophic failure point.

(no liquid flow, zero cooling)

 

And good heatpipecoolers will definitely handle any APU.

Sure custom water coolers can offer lot more cooling power then heatpipe coolers, but those aren't small, compact or especially anything in your budget.

 

 

5 hours ago, syn2112 said:

and they had no improvements over the years, AMD just kept rebadging the same CPU's over and over and over and over.

They had improvements.

It was just question of turd staying as turd no matter how you tweak it.

(just like Intel's Netburst/Pentium 4 before Faildozer)

Which is why they completely gave up high end desktop for multiple years.