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Weird Shutdown Patters/ "Bit Flips"

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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine

Yeah no. That doesn't mean its stable. AIDA 64 is trash for reliability testing. Memory issues are certainly possible though; run memtest.

So a few months ago I assembled myself a decent daily driver desktop that I could use to browse the interwebs and engage in light gaming. In recent times, it's been experiencing weird behaviour.

1) It will often shut down randomly, but not always. Like I'd leave it for 15 minutes, I'd come back, and It's off. Or I could leave it overnight and could resume whatever I was doing. IDK why this happens, but It can be annoying.

2) Sometimes, but It hasn't happened for a while *knocks on wood*, the computer just dies, which is the best way I can describe it, and windows doesn't even bluescreen. I'm sitting there, doing whatever, and BAM, It's running through the POST sequence. This isn't because of any overclocks. (It runs stable at 4.2 GHz, but this can happen at base clock of 3.5GHz) I've been using it for 6 months, and it's only happened a few times *bangs on wood* but It can cause me to lose work, even though I don't do anything important at all.

 

System Specs:

MSI Z-97 Gaming 5 Mobo

Intel Core i5-4690K

8GB DDR3-1600 Hyper-X RAM

some HDD's

A fat Tower Cooler

And a stable overclock to 4.2 GHz.

 

On a side note, anyone know how to power On/Off the computer at certain times?

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What PSU?

Define "Stable Overclock". How did you test it?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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Could be a power issue? What PSU do you have?

 

In my experience, when memory derps windows will bluescreen and restart. Never had it shut down.

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Just now, sazrocks said:

What PSU?

Define "Stable Overclock". How did you test it?

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine. Thermals only kinda crept up to 65 C.

PSU is a Corsair TX850M or something like that

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If you suspect memory you could run memtest

 

http://www.memtest.org/

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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine

Yeah no. That doesn't mean its stable. AIDA 64 is trash for reliability testing. Memory issues are certainly possible though; run memtest.

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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Just now, Planeguy102 said:

I'll see, It is likely. It's so old it has green PCB's and I bought it from China.

Green PCB isn't a bad thing...

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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

I'll see, It is likely. It's so old it has green PCB's and I bought it from China.

have you ever watched your PC shut down? RAM doesn't shut the system off instantly, its supposed to freeze, i'm guessing it's a power issue, or some faulty hardware (CPU, GPU, Motherboard)

could also be unstable power lines

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6 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Rufus couldn't write memtest to my USB. which one should I download @Razor Blade ?

Yeah Rufus won't touch that file...you would have to burn it to a CD. You could just use memtest86. Either use their USB installer or Rufus with the image in the download.

https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm

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