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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine

Yeah no. That doesn't mean its stable. AIDA 64 is trash for reliability testing. Memory issues are certainly possible though; run memtest.

So a few months ago I assembled myself a decent daily driver desktop that I could use to browse the interwebs and engage in light gaming. In recent times, it's been experiencing weird behaviour.

1) It will often shut down randomly, but not always. Like I'd leave it for 15 minutes, I'd come back, and It's off. Or I could leave it overnight and could resume whatever I was doing. IDK why this happens, but It can be annoying.

2) Sometimes, but It hasn't happened for a while *knocks on wood*, the computer just dies, which is the best way I can describe it, and windows doesn't even bluescreen. I'm sitting there, doing whatever, and BAM, It's running through the POST sequence. This isn't because of any overclocks. (It runs stable at 4.2 GHz, but this can happen at base clock of 3.5GHz) I've been using it for 6 months, and it's only happened a few times *bangs on wood* but It can cause me to lose work, even though I don't do anything important at all.

 

System Specs:

MSI Z-97 Gaming 5 Mobo

Intel Core i5-4690K

8GB DDR3-1600 Hyper-X RAM

some HDD's

A fat Tower Cooler

And a stable overclock to 4.2 GHz.

 

On a side note, anyone know how to power On/Off the computer at certain times?

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What PSU?

Define "Stable Overclock". How did you test it?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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Could be a power issue? What PSU do you have?

 

In my experience, when memory derps windows will bluescreen and restart. Never had it shut down.

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Just now, sazrocks said:

What PSU?

Define "Stable Overclock". How did you test it?

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine. Thermals only kinda crept up to 65 C.

PSU is a Corsair TX850M or something like that

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If you suspect memory you could run memtest

 

http://www.memtest.org/

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Just now, Razor Blade said:

If you suspect memory you could run memtest?

 

http://www.memtest.org/

I'll see, It is likely. It's so old it has green PCB's and I bought it from China.

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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Stable overclock means I forgot about it and was using it fine for over a month. I also ran AIDA 64 Extreme for about 30 minutes and said it was fine

Yeah no. That doesn't mean its stable. AIDA 64 is trash for reliability testing. Memory issues are certainly possible though; run memtest.

Current LTT F@H Rank: 90    Score: 2,503,680,659    Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC (Hybrid Windows 10/Arch Linux):

OS: Arch Linux w/ XFCE DE (VFIO-Patched Kernel) as host OS, windows 10 as guest

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X w/PBO on (6c 12t for host, 6c 12t for guest)

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus X470-F Gaming

RAM: 32GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz (12GB for host, 20GB for guest)

GPU: Guest: EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA Host: 2x Radeon HD 8470

PSU: EVGA G2 650W

SSDs: Guest: Samsung 850 evo 120 GB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB Host: Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

HDD: Guest: WD Caviar Blue 1 TB

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Other: White LED strip to illuminate the interior. Extra fractal intake fan for positive pressure.

 

unRAID server (Plex, Windows 10 VM, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 6.11.2

CPU: Ryzen R7 2700x @ Stock

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus Prime X470-Pro

RAM: 16GB G-Skill Ripjaws V + 16GB Hyperx Fury Black @ stock

GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

SSD: Samsung 970 evo NVME 250GB, Samsung 860 evo SATA 1TB 

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity)

Case: Sillverstone GD08B

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

Details: 12GB ram, GTX 1080, USB card passed through to windows 10 VM. VM's OS drive is the SATA SSD. Rest of resources are for Plex, Duplicati, Spaghettidetective, Nextcloud, and game servers.

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Just now, Planeguy102 said:

I'll see, It is likely. It's so old it has green PCB's and I bought it from China.

Green PCB isn't a bad thing...

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Just now, Razor Blade said:

Green PCB isn't a bad thing...

but it's not a good thing either...

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Rufus couldn't write memtest to my USB. which one should I download @Razor Blade ?

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3 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

I'll see, It is likely. It's so old it has green PCB's and I bought it from China.

have you ever watched your PC shut down? RAM doesn't shut the system off instantly, its supposed to freeze, i'm guessing it's a power issue, or some faulty hardware (CPU, GPU, Motherboard)

could also be unstable power lines

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6 minutes ago, Planeguy102 said:

Rufus couldn't write memtest to my USB. which one should I download @Razor Blade ?

Yeah Rufus won't touch that file...you would have to burn it to a CD. You could just use memtest86. Either use their USB installer or Rufus with the image in the download.

https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm

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