Cool n' Quiet downclocks my cpu?

[JoaoPires95]

Hello, I have a Ryzen 3 1200 on a ASRock B350 pro4 motherboard and I overclocked it to a stable 3.9Ghz. All works fine. When today I tried to disable Cool n' Quiet in the bios (the only thing I disabled) my multiplier goes from 39 to 31, so my frequency goes from 3900 to 3100, while it is still 3900 in the cpu frequency in the bios. When I enable it again it goes back to normal. Any ideas why this is happening? Thank you!

[Jurrunio]

So it wont get past 3.1GHz when enabled? I guess that's just the BIOS playing up, in which 'off means on, on means off'.

[.Apex.]

11 minutes ago, JoaoPires95 said:

Hello, I have a Ryzen 3 1200 on a ASRock B350 pro4 motherboard and I overclocked it to a stable 3.9Ghz. All works fine. When today I tried to disable Cool n' Quiet in the bios (the only thing I disabled) my multiplier goes from 39 to 31, so my frequency goes from 3900 to 3100, while it is still 3900 in the cpu frequency in the bios. When I enable it again it goes back to normal. Any ideas why this is happening? Thank you!

that is supposed to be the other way around, there seems to be a bug with the BIOS, try updating it.

and did you try to disable the C-States?

[NelizMastr]

Cool n quiet disables itself when overclocking, so this is pretty weird behaviour.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

42 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

Cool n quiet disables itself when overclocking, so this is pretty weird behaviour.

in some boards it doesnt

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

59 minutes ago, JoaoPires95 said:

Hello, I have a Ryzen 3 1200 on a ASRock B350 pro4 motherboard and I overclocked it to a stable 3.9Ghz. All works fine. When today I tried to disable Cool n' Quiet in the bios (the only thing I disabled) my multiplier goes from 39 to 31, so my frequency goes from 3900 to 3100, while it is still 3900 in the cpu frequency in the bios. When I enable it again it goes back to normal. Any ideas why this is happening? Thank you!

windows also has allowance to change the frequency,  set power settings to maximum performance, balanced and power saving will downclock the chip fr powersaving

[JoaoPires95]

@Valkyrie Lenneth I have performance mode selected already.

 

@syn2112 maybe a bit of a noob question here but what are C-States. I also have the latest bios (non-beta) installed, version 4.70.

 

Thank you!

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

58 minutes ago, JoaoPires95 said:

@Valkyrie Lenneth I have performance mode selected already.

 

@syn2112 maybe a bit of a noob question here but what are C-States. I also have the latest bios (non-beta) installed, version 4.70.

 

Thank you!

In order to save energy when the CPU is idle, the CPU can be commanded to enter a low-power mode. Each CPU has several power modes and they are collectively called "C-states" or "C-modes". In this article we will explain what these modes are, what they do and the modes supported by each processor.

The lower-power mode was first introduced with the 486DX4 processor, so this concept is far from new. With time, however, more power modes were introduced and enhancements were made to each mode so the CPU could consume less power when it is in one of these low-power modes.

The basic idea of these modes is to cut the clock signal and power from idle units inside the CPU. The more units you stop (by cutting the clock), reduce the voltage or even completely shut down, the more energy you save, but more time is required for the CPU to "wake up" and again be 100% operational.

These modes are known as "C-states". They are numbered starting at C0, which is the normal CPU operating mode, i.e. the CPU is 100% turned on. The higher the C number is, the deeper is the CPU sleep mode, i.e. more circuits and signals are turned off and the more time the CPU will take to go back to C0 mode, i.e. to wake-up.

Each mode is also known by a name and several of them have sub-modes with different power saving levels – and thus wake-up time.

In the table below we summarize all C-state modes currently available. Modes C1 to C3 work by basically cutting clock signals used inside the CPU, while modes C4 to C6 work by reducing the CPU voltage. "Enhanced" modes can do both at the same time.
 

Mode	Name	What it does	Supported CPUs
C0	Operating State	CPU fully turned on	All CPUs
C1	Halt	Stops CPU main internal clocks via software; bus interface unit and APIC are kept running at full speed.	486DX4 and above
C1E	Enhanced Halt	Stops CPU main internal clocks via software and reduces CPU voltage; bus interface unit and APIC are kept running at full speed.	All socket 775 CPUs
C1E	—	Stops all CPU internal clocks.	Turion 64, 65-nm Athlon X2 and Phenom CPUs
C2	Stop Grant	Stops CPU main internal clocks via hardware; bus interface unit and APIC are kept running at full speed.	486DX4 and above
C2	Stop Clock	Stops CPU internal and external clocks via hardware	Only 486DX4, Pentium, Pentium MMX, K5, K6, K6-2, K6-III
C2E	Extended Stop Grant	Stops CPU main internal clocks via hardware and reduces CPU voltage; bus interface unit and APIC are kept running at full speed.	Core 2 Duo and above (Intel only)
C3	Sleep	Stops all CPU internal clocks	Pentium II, Athlon and above, but not on Core 2 Duo E4000 and E6000
C3	Deep Sleep	Stops all CPU internal and external clocks	Pentium II and above, but not on Core 2 Duo E4000 and E6000; Turion 64
C3	AltVID	Stops all CPU internal clocks and reduces CPU voltage	AMD Turion 64
C4	Deeper Sleep	Reduces CPU voltage	Pentium M and above, but not on Core 2 Duo E4000 and E6000 series; AMD Turion 64
C4E/C5	Enhanced Deeper Sleep	Reduces CPU voltage even more and turns off the memory cache	Core Solo, Core Duo and 45-nm mobile Core 2 Duo only
C6	Deep Power Down	Reduces the CPU internal voltage to any value, including 0 V	45-nm mobile Core 2 Duo only

[JoaoPires95]

@Valkyrie Lenneth thank you for the detailed awnser! I will look into it when I get home and I'll see if it works. Thank you again!

[JoaoPires95]

@Valkyrie Lenneth Disabling the Global C-States Control did not work unfortunately. I think I will contact ASRock about it. Thank you for your help!