X470 Recommendation?

[donalgodon]

Can anyone make a recommendation between the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon X470 and the Gigabyte Aorus 5 X470?

Those are both in my budget range. 

 

Which is a better option and why, in your view?

 

I'll be using the Corsair 2400 (2933 via XMP) that I am using now and basically moving to a new case and a 2700X from the 1800X.

VRM quality and stability matters to me. I don't plan to overclock manually.

[LHJKO]

Your upgrading from a 1800x to a 2700x at that point why not just get a thread ripper

[PineyCreek]

59 minutes ago, Vernw3.com said:

Your upgrading from a 1800x to a 2700x at that point why not just get a thread ripper

Or wait for the next generation of ThreadRipper.  Surely it's not far behind now.

 

That being said, to answer OP's question and limiting the selection to just those two, I'd go for the Aorus simply because I'm not a fan of the MSI BIOS interfaces I've seen.

[Jurrunio]

1800x to 2700x is a very bad investment. If you're looking for more cores, get Threadripper instead. If you want better single core performance, Get a 7900x (yes, Intel) instead.

[just_dave]

Strix X470-F > Prime X470 Pro > X470 Pro Carbon > X470 Gaming Plus > Gigabyte Gaming 5/ Ultra Gaming

[donalgodon]

Thanks for the response is so far. I also need dual M.2. 

 

Do any of the options mentioned so far have a dual bios?

[Princess Luna]

You upgraded from a 1800X to the 2700X? but it is essentially the same chip

[donalgodon]

I was able to sell my 1800 x for the same price that I paid for the 2700 X and I'm coming from ab350m and I want to upgrade to x470

[Michael2696]

Prime x470?

[donalgodon]

I've been looking for recommendations on x470, not x370.

 

At the very least, wouldn't you say that the ASRock b350m pro4 is a worse board for the 2700x than the MSI x470 Pro carbon?

[PineyCreek]

Kind of apples and oranges considering one's a micro board.  I'd get a Asrock X470 Taichi or ASUS Prime 470 board before those myself.

 

You want to save a few bucks, wait for B450 to be released.

 

Honestly from what I've seen thus far I see little reason to upgrade to a newer chipset if you can upgrade the BIOS on the older ones to support the new chips.  Maybe if you want to buy a board specfically for an APU since some of them have integrated video on the I/O and some don't.

[donalgodon]

6 hours ago, PineyCreek said:

Kind of apples and oranges considering one's a micro board.  I'd get a Asrock X470 Taichi or ASUS Prime 470 board before those myself.

 

You want to save a few bucks, wait for B450 to be released.

 

Honestly from what I've seen thus far I see little reason to upgrade to a newer chipset if you can upgrade the BIOS on the older ones to support the new chips.  Maybe if you want to buy a board specfically for an APU since some of them have integrated video on the I/O and some don't.

I'm more concerned about the vrm quality on the b350. 

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, donalgodon said:

I'm more concerned about the vrm quality on the b350. 

Then go for the X470 Asus Pro Prime of Strix-F those have safe VRM

[donalgodon]

Asus Crosshair 7 Hero or Gigabyte M7 Gaming WiFi?

[PineyCreek]

Or Asrock Taichi x370 or x470.  VRMs are solid.

[pitA]

On 5/6/2018 at 6:57 PM, donalgodon said:

I also need dual M.2. 

The Crosshair 7 Hero has dual M.2 that can both operate at PCIE X4 (potentially in RAID) directly connected to the CPU. To my knowledge it's the only X470 motherboard with this configuration. On others with dual M.2, one of them goes through the chipset, which has 4 lanes total shared among other I/O.

 

The downside is that one of the video card slots will be reduced to 4X if you do this. If you're not using SLI/Crossfire, or if using at least one low powered video card, it shouldn't matter.

[GamerVoice]

I have the rog strix x470-f gaming , if you don't mind paying more get the hero... but the strix is perfect for me

[Frenky]

The VRM on the x370 taichi is the best of the best, can handle 300w lol. Don't know about the x470 version but it's probably the same.

[donalgodon]

On 5/13/2018 at 11:30 AM, pitA said:

The Crosshair 7 Hero has dual M.2 that can both operate at PCIE X4 (potentially in RAID) directly connected to the CPU. To my knowledge it's the only X470 motherboard with this configuration. On others with dual M.2, one of them goes through the chipset, which has 4 lanes total shared among other I/O.

 

The downside is that one of the video card slots will be reduced to 4X if you do this. If you're not using SLI/Crossfire, or if using at least one low powered video card, it shouldn't matter.

With two M.2, the video card slot is reduced to 8x if you using a single card.

 

Do you know if there's any significant performance difference?

 

 I've heard some users complaining that they had stuttering until they removed one of the M.2s.

[pitA]

On 5/15/2018 at 1:19 AM, donalgodon said:

With two M.2, the video card slot is reduced to 8x if you using a single card.

 

Do you know if there's any significant performance difference?

 

 I've heard some users complaining that they had stuttering until they removed one of the M.2s.

With two M.2, the top video card slot will be at x8 and the second will be at x4.

 

According to Gamers Nexus, the difference in performance between x16 and x8 is negligible with a GTX 1080:

That was two years ago. I don't know if things have changed since then, or with higher performing video cards.

[SliceT]

On 13/05/2018 at 1:34 PM, PineyCreek said:

Or Asrock Taichi x370 or x470.  VRMs are solid.

True that. The best AM4 motherboard in the market.