MSI vs ASUS

[killyx]

Hi everybody and sorry for my bad English.
I've just sell my Alienware 15 R3 to buy a new gaming laptop, 8th Gen, with full GTX 1070, and I've done some research between Asus, Alienware, MSI, and in conclusion I hesitate a lot between these models (battery life isn't an issue for me, and I will carry my laptop everyday in a backpack to school from my house) :

- ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
- ASUS ROG Strix GL703GS SCAR (does it exist in 15" ?)
- MSI GS73/GS63 8RF (Max-Q or Full ?)
- MSI GS65 8RF (Too expensive for only 256/512GB storage?)

I came here to hear your advices and critics about these laptops, and what models would you choose ? Thermals are good on these laptops ? Because my AW had horrible thermal issues (99°C in game) and that matter a lot for me because I hate throttling when gaming (not just me I assume).
Last thing : I can do a Liquid Metal Repaste but I heard that will affect the guarantee on Asus Models (and it's not good when you move your laptop in a backpack ???)
Thanks in advance !

 

PS: just heard about Mechrevo V2, but not sure how I can buy it in EU.

[genexis_x]

Full 1070: Only look at Aorus X5 v8, MSI GE Raider and Asus Zephyrus M.

 

1070MQ: Clevo P950ER/P950EP6, MSI GSVR

 

Mechrevo Z2 isn't available with 1070 from what I know, will let you know after I've done my research

 

If you want LM repaste get the laptop from resellers like gentechpc, they can do it for you while still covering the warranty. Same goes to any SSD or RAM upgrades. LM will not leak if it's applied correctly.

 

Thin gaming laptop will NEVER have good thermals even though it has a good cooling. It will throttle at some point (full CPU+GPU load). Thermodynamics is there.

 

Also Asus gaming laptops are known for poor QC and QA, just keep that in mind

[samcool55]

What about getting a laptop and an external GPU?

 

I know you don't really care about battery life, when i started at highschool i thought the same thing.

But having a laptop that can't even survive 1 lesson (here it's 90 minutes) is REALLY annoying because if you somehow end up in a room where power plugs are not available you know you won't make it to the end

 

Also don't even think about gaming during class, treachers will notice. No i never got caught (i did play openTTD quite often tho :D) but other people did get caught and it didn't always end well...

[killyx]

15 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

What about getting a laptop and an external GPU?

 

I know you don't really care about battery life, when i started at highschool i thought the same thing.

But having a laptop that can't even survive 1 lesson (here it's 90 minutes) is REALLY annoying because if you somehow end up in a room where power plugs are not available you know you won't make it to the end

 

Also don't even think about gaming during class, treachers will notice. No i never got caught (i did play openTTD quite often tho :D) but other people did get caught and it didn't always end well...

Haha thanks for your answer, but I'm in second year computer engineering school, and I'm plugged 24/24, so not an issue

External GPU is not my thing, I don't think I will buy one

 

24 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Full 1070: Only look at Aorus X5 v8, MSI GE Raider and Asus Zephyrus M.

 

1070MQ: Clevo P950ER/P950EP6, MSI GSVR

 

Mechrevo Z2 isn't available with 1070 from what I know, will let you know after I've done my research

 

If you want LM repaste get the laptop from resellers like gentechpc, they can do it for you while still covering the warranty. Same goes to any SSD or RAM upgrades. LM will not leak if it's applied correctly.

 

Thin gaming laptop will NEVER have good thermals even though it has a good cooling. It will throttle at some point (full CPU+GPU load). Thermodynamics is there.

 

Also Asus gaming laptops are known for poor QC and QA, just keep that in mind

I just checked GenTechPC and what they offer are very interesting ! But they don't write release date of their PC.. I go to Netherlands this week and the GM501 is already out, so maybe I'll buy the Asus Zephyrus.

[killyx]

2 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Full 1070: Only look at Aorus X5 v8, MSI GE Raider and Asus Zephyrus M.

 

1070MQ: Clevo P950ER/P950EP6, MSI GSVR

 

Mechrevo Z2 isn't available with 1070 from what I know, will let you know after I've done my research

 

If you want LM repaste get the laptop from resellers like gentechpc, they can do it for you while still covering the warranty. Same goes to any SSD or RAM upgrades. LM will not leak if it's applied correctly.

 

Thin gaming laptop will NEVER have good thermals even though it has a good cooling. It will throttle at some point (full CPU+GPU load). Thermodynamics is there.

 

Also Asus gaming laptops are known for poor QC and QA, just keep that in mind

I've just saw the Aorus x5 v8 and it's pretty interesting !

[genexis_x]

22 minutes ago, killyx said:

I've just saw the Aorus x5 v8 and it's pretty interesting !

It's has the best cooling among all thin and light gaming laptops (although it's not the thinnest and lightest). Just need a repaste (Gigabyte has bad thermal paste job), LM isn't necessary but nice to have. Also some heatsink modding may needed.

[killyx]

2 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

It's has the best cooling among all thin and light gaming laptops (although it's not the thinnest and lightest). Just need a repaste (Gigabyte has bad thermal paste job), LM isn't necessary but nice to have. Also some heatsink modding may needed.

It's pretty thin ! And same weight that the Zephyrus ! (2.5kg)

I think I'd go for it, but not sure for now because it's a little out of my budget.
I can order it on XoticPC or Pro-Star.com with repaste (not LM but Grizzly Kryonaut).

LT only with GenTechPC

And I wanted your mind about something : these 2 website does not have Taxes or Fees to deliver in France (just +200$ shipping), I contacted their support and they said : 

Quote

These quotes do not include the customs fees for your country. The best way to estimate the customs fees will be to contact your local customs office to see if they will provide a quote.

 

And when I proceed to the paypal payment, no taxes are added. I risk something if they took my laptop at the border ?

I don't know what to think about this.