Streaming gameplay without internet

[Caius Filimon]

Hi there,

 

I have a powerful gaming laptop and a notebook. The notebook has a 4k resolution while the gaming laptop does not. I also only have the option of plugging in one ethernet cable, not two (uni dorm).

 

Would it be possible for me to connect the two machines some other way so I can play games at 4k?

 

Thanks a lot for your input and help. Also, not sure if this is the correct sub-forum for it so sorry if not.

[Oshino Shinobu]

You won't be able to using the display from one laptop as a monitor for the other, unless you have one of the very few laptops that has a display input port. 

 

Also, you can plug in both with Ethernet if you buy a switch, not that that will allow you to use one laptop to play on the screen of the other. 

[Guest]

Steam inhome streaming?

If you dont have a wifi connection in your home:

Use your phone as a wifi hotspot and then connect the 2 machines to it, but dont expect 4k on that.

[Caius Filimon]

1 hour ago, Some Random Member said:

Steam inhome streaming?

If you dont have a wifi connection in your home:

Use your phone as a wifi hotspot and then connect the 2 machines to it, but dont expect 4k on that.

Thank you.

 

I was hoping for a direct machine to machine port. of sorts. I don't really understand why it would work through cabled internet but not through an inter-machine cable.

 

As a separate question though, do you know if it's possible to run a game on 4k on a 1080p monitor laptop, and stream it through steam to another laptop that has a 4k screen?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Caius Filimon said:

Thank you.

 

I was hoping for a direct machine to machine port. of sorts. I don't really understand why it would work through cabled internet but not through an inter-machine cable.

 

As a separate question though, do you know if it's possible to run a game on 4k on a 1080p monitor laptop, and stream it through steam to another laptop that has a 4k screen?

Idk, it would need a massively fast internet, if you want to have a pleasant experience.

[Caius Filimon]

1 hour ago, Some Random Member said:

Idk, it would need a massively fast internet, if you want to have a pleasant experience.

I thought 4k game streaming was quite common. I have 10MB/s download speeds; not sure if that is any indication or not.

[Technous285]

7 hours ago, Caius Filimon said:

I thought 4k game streaming was quite common. I have 10MB/s download speeds; not sure if that is any indication or not.

Sitting on 8mbps ADSL, I'm just able to watch 720p60 videos & streams with minimal buffering but 1080p30 or higher takes its sweet time buffering.

So yeah, you ain't getting 4K streaming on 10mbps, 1080p maybe but not 4K.

[Caius Filimon]

13 hours ago, Technous285 said:

Sitting on 8mbps ADSL, I'm just able to watch 720p60 videos & streams with minimal buffering but 1080p30 or higher takes its sweet time buffering.

So yeah, you ain't getting 4K streaming on 10mbps, 1080p maybe but not 4K.

Interesting. I can stream 4k at five/six times the speed it takes to watch it.

[Caius Filimon]

So there really is no way to emulate Steam's streaming of video games through a wired connection (to ensure fast speeds and not require a home network)? it seems absurd to me that something that can be done through the internet to connect two machines cannot be done through a direct wire connection. 

[Caius Filimon]

Hi there peeps,

 

I have a 4k 2in1 laptop and a 1080p gaming laptop. I've managed to connect the two together with ethernet and steam streaming runs great.

 

Is it possible to render the game at 4k on the gaming laptop, for the 4k screen 2in1 laptop to see the game properly at 4k? I hope that makes sense.

 

Thanks a lot for your help!

[Jihakuz]

How are you going to put 4k pixels with on only 1920 pixels?

You can't that is your answer, you may get better quality though with downscaling that is taking place.

[iiNNeX]

Using things like DSR to upscale to 4K will provide a slightly better image quality, but not worth the massive performance hit and it won't be real 4K anyway, so in short No.

 

 

[Caius Filimon]

I see; I suppose I do not understand what steam streaming really is. It is literally video capture with a live feed? I would've hoped it's a bit more advanced than that.

 

Thank you very much for your help and advice!

 

So this way it is impossible for me to get any use in gaming from my 4k notebook screen, I take it? 

 

What I assumed would be that the information/calculations sent to the gaming laptop's screen would be transferred over steam stream, not literally a video capture of what's displayed on the actual 1080p screen : (

 

 

[Caius Filimon]

For example, if I upscale the resolution on the gaming laptop with 1080p, and stream to a 4k resolution screen, then the 4k resoultion screen can literally see only as much as the 1080p, the 4k resolution giving absolutely no advantage whatsoever in discerning the little detail?

[tikker]

IIRC Steam streaming supports 4k, so running the game at 4k on  the gaming laptop using Nvidia DSR should work AFAIK. This you can check though, as you say you have the streaming up and running. Play a game in 1080p, see how it looks, play the game in 4k, see how it looks and compare.

[Caius Filimon]

21 minutes ago, tikker said:

IIRC Steam streaming supports 4k, so running the game at 4k on  the gaming laptop using Nvidia DSR should work AFAIK. This you can check though, as you say you have the streaming up and running. Play a game in 1080p, see how it looks, play the game in 4k, see how it looks and compare.

Thank you very much!

 

It would seem that there is still some blur, and as such I cannot see any improvements in textures; I can only see worse textures.

 

The Steam stream settings are set to the highest quality. I likewise used DSR and changed resolution in-game.

 

I'm using an ethernet to USB 3.0 though; not sure if that limits the bandwidth? Although I doubt that as it still looks blurry on 1080p. I'm guessing that the 640MBps of the 3.0 should be enough though? Or the only other issue could be that my ethernet cable only supports 100 and not 1000? Can that be checked?

 

Thank you for your help!

[tikker]

1 hour ago, Caius Filimon said:

Thank you very much!

 

It would seem that there is still some blur, and as such I cannot see any improvements in textures; I can only see worse textures.

 

The Steam stream settings are set to the highest quality. I likewise used DSR and changed resolution in-game.

 

I'm using an ethernet to USB 3.0 though; not sure if that limits the bandwidth? Although I doubt that as it still looks blurry on 1080p. I'm guessing that the 640MBps of the 3.0 should be enough though? Or the only other issue could be that my ethernet cable only supports 100 and not 1000? Can that be checked?

 

Thank you for your help!

A gigabit connection would be best, as 100 Mb might not have enough bandwidth. I know that streaming 4k media in my home benefits greatly from everything being on a 1 Gb switch. It's not the cables btw, but the ports (or rather the NICs) that need to support gigabit.

[Caius Filimon]

7 hours ago, tikker said:

A gigabit connection would be best, as 100 Mb might not have enough bandwidth. I know that streaming 4k media in my home benefits greatly from everything being on a 1 Gb switch. It's not the cables btw, but the ports (or rather the NICs) that need to support gigabit.

Using a USB3 ethernet adapter, but with 'LAN Speed Test' I have a writing speed of 315 mbps and reading speed of 626 mbps so I'm guessing bandwidth would not be an issue even for 4k.

 

Now I'm continuing to have issues with steam streaming which seems to be garbage. Very good, low display response time (no more than 20ms) but everything looks plenty crappier even on 1080p. Much blurrier. So I guess I'm going to try Nvidia Shield.