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11 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

so i switched the parts you said besides the cooling, and That only saves me like $100. i still like the 8 core processor amd has

You have to realize that core count is not everything. Yea amd cpu has 8 cores 16 threads vs. the intel 6 cores 6 threads but many of the games wont utilize that much cores. It would be good if u planned gaming and streaming at the same time. Or if you need to render something or things like that. But u said that the pc will be primarily for gaming and assignments(not cpu heavy I guess). So isnt it better to save urself 100 for a tier higher graphics card than spending that on cpu? You have to make some compromises. With the i5-8400 you get same performance(if not better) in games compared to the ryzen 1700. You know why? Because intel cpus has very good single core performance and that matters in gaming.

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So here is what I would go for. Plus a windows 10 pro from kinguin.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($165.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($554.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.33 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1250.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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45 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

mini atx? i dont have a mini atx componenet in this build. my mother board says micro atx on it. I went back and looked the only mini itx i have in my build is the case, which it does both mini itx and micro atx

sorry I meant micro not mini, but looking at the list in the beginning of the post it says mid atx, so my point being the mobo smaller than the case you might run into cord length issues

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb/by_merchant/

 

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK LP 51.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($325.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 


Total: $1254.11
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Heres my recommendations:

 

I kept your AMD processor and case.

changed the cooler to a good quality low profile be-quiet brand. at 65W tdp on your cpu this should work well (better than the stock cooler)  

Switched motherboard to MSI based on personal preference. has some nice features like usb-c and a bit higher quality

Memory I went with 16gb Patriot which is higher quality (CL14) than Gskill and other brands suggested. (and its made in the USA if you care)

 

Video cards I went with the EVGA Nvidia 1060SC (superclock) instead of the 1070 to save 200$, this card should still perform really well for 1080p gaming. EVGA is a good brand. 

 

I switched your power supply to a highly rated corsair CS 500W 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, matus177 said:

So here is what I would go for. Plus a windows 10 pro from kinguin.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($107.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($165.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.85 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($554.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.33 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1250.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I like this build I really do. The thing is I currently have a quad core gaming pc, I’m looking to build a new higher end pc. I understand and have heard AMD is the bastard step child compared to NVIDIA and Intel. However I think the build that antitrust posted above is a better build. I get the 8 core processor (which I understand isn’t everything) and a gtx 1060 almost similar to the 1070. For pretty much the same money.  I think his build really balances what I’m looking for. 

 

In the end though I just want to run escape from Tarkov not on low settings lol

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19 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb/by_merchant/

 

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK LP 51.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($325.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 


Total: $1254.11
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Heres my recommendations:

 

I kept your AMD processor and case.

changed the cooler to a good quality low profile be-quiet brand. at 65W tdp on your cpu this should work well (better than the stock cooler)  

Switched motherboard to MSI based on personal preference. has some nice features like usb-c and a bit higher quality

Memory I went with 16gb Patriot which is higher quality (CL14) than Gskill and other brands suggested. (and its made in the USA if you care)

 

Video cards I went with the EVGA Nvidia 1060SC (superclock) instead of the 1070 to save 200$, this card should still perform really well for 1080p gaming. EVGA is a good brand. 

 

I switched your power supply to a highly rated corsair CS 500W 

 

 

I really like this build you changed for me. This looks excellent and may just be my final build. I do have a question though. I have two friends that are anti micro atx/mid tower case. They think something like this will be too damn hot for what we do. Which is play high stressful spec games like arma 3 or escape from Tarkov, and soon to be maybe hunt:showdown. Essentially what I am trying to do is build a future proof pc while making sure it runs great. I’m not a huge fan of the big full towers but I will change if you or others recommend a full tower case 

 

also so I haven’t built a pc in almost 10 years but I have friends who say you should pair Intel with NVIDIA and amd with Radeon only? 

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3 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

I like this build I really do. The thing is I currently have a quad core gaming pc, I’m looking to build a new higher end pc. I understand and have heard AMD is the bastard step child compared to NVIDIA and Intel. However I think the build that antitrust posted above is a better build. I get the 8 core processor (which I understand isn’t everything) and a gtx 1060 almost similar to the 1070. For pretty much the same money.  I think his build really balances what I’m looking for. 

 

In the end though I just want to run escape from Tarkov not on low settings lol

6 cores are in fact more than 4 cores. The last build doesn't make much sense, and uses a bunch of crappy and overpriced parts. The 1070 performs a whole lot better than the 1060 (40%, IIRC), and the 1070 Ti for $570 performs another 20% better than that again. 

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19 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8frHBb/by_merchant/

 

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  ($269.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK LP 51.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($325.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 


Total: $1254.11
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-09 18:22 EDT-0400

 

Heres my recommendations:

 

I kept your AMD processor and case.

changed the cooler to a good quality low profile be-quiet brand. at 65W tdp on your cpu this should work well (better than the stock cooler)  

Switched motherboard to MSI based on personal preference. has some nice features like usb-c and a bit higher quality

Memory I went with 16gb Patriot which is higher quality (CL14) than Gskill and other brands suggested. (and its made in the USA if you care)

 

Video cards I went with the EVGA Nvidia 1060SC (superclock) instead of the 1070 to save 200$, this card should still perform really well for 1080p gaming. EVGA is a good brand. 

 

I switched your power supply to a highly rated corsair CS 500W 

 

 

For just gaming, the 1700 doesn't make sense. In most titles, the cheaper 1600 will perform the same, and the 8400 will perform better. 

Why get a low profile cooler? Either use the stock cooler, or get a cooler that isn't crap for the price. 

The motherboard has a crappy VRM, and is generally aweful for the price. There are several boards that are less crappy, like the Prime Plus and Pro4. Ideally, with an 8 core you want something like a Prime Pro. I have no idea where you got the "higher quality" part from. 

The RAM is just slow and crap. CL isn't an indication of quality. Where RAM is made doesn't matter. Same as for pretty much any other part. 

Why get a GPU with half the performance of a 1070 Ti? When you can get a 1070 Ti build, why get a 1060? There is no such thing as a good brand. All of them are equally capable of selling crap. 

You didn't choose the CS (which btw is outdated), you chose the overpriced and crappy green CXM. 

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7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

For just gaming, the 1700 doesn't make sense. In most titles, the cheaper 1600 will perform the same, and the 8400 will perform better. 

Why get a low profile cooler? Either use the stock cooler, or get a cooler that isn't crap for the price. 

The motherboard has a crappy VRM, and is generally aweful for the price. There are several boards that are less crappy, like the Prime Plus and Pro4. Ideally, with an 8 core you want something like a Prime Pro. I have no idea where you got the "higher quality" part from. 

The RAM is just slow and crap. CL isn't an indication of quality. Where RAM is made doesn't matter. Same as for pretty much any other part. 

Why get a GPU with half the performance of a 1070 Ti? When you can get a 1070 Ti build, why get a 1060? There is no such thing as a good brand. All of them are equally capable of selling crap. 

You didn't choose the CS (which btw is outdated), you chose the overpriced and crappy green CXM. 

I'll just ignore this rude comment. 

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24 minutes ago, PurplDrank said:

I really like this build you changed for me. This looks excellent and may just be my final build. I do have a question though. I have two friends that are anti micro atx/mid tower case. They think something like this will be too damn hot for what we do. Which is play high stressful spec games like arma 3 or escape from Tarkov, and soon to be maybe hunt:showdown. Essentially what I am trying to do is build a future proof pc while making sure it runs great. I’m not a huge fan of the big full towers but I will change if you or others recommend a full tower case 

 

also so I haven’t built a pc in almost 10 years but I have friends who say you should pair Intel with NVIDIA and amd with Radeon only? 

I use a mid size case, I doubt that my thermals would really be much better in a full size case. The corsair case you chose is pretty big for a mid size case as well. Mid size cases are like 80-85% the size of full size (rough estimate) so in my opinion it makes little to no noticeable difference.  I don't think youll have any problems with that case. 

 

MicroAtx is different from mid size though, and the cases start getting pretty cramped. (its probably more like 60% the size of full tower) 

 

AMD with Nvidia works perfectly fine and Intel with AMD works perfectly fine. That said, Intel generally makes better processors and Nvidia generally makes better graphics cards.

 

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28 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

I use a mid size case, I doubt that my thermals would really be much better in a full size case. The corsair case you chose is pretty big for a mid size case as well. Mid size cases are like 80-85% the size of full size (rough estimate) so in my opinion it makes little to no noticeable difference.  I don't think youll have any problems with that case. 

 

MicroAtx is different from mid size though, and the cases start getting pretty cramped. (its probably more like 60% the size of full tower) 

 

AMD with Nvidia works perfectly fine and Intel with AMD works perfectly fine. That said, Intel generally makes better processors and Nvidia generally makes better graphics cards.

 

If i had to switch to an intel processor which i7 would you pick? i do not want an i5 to be honest, i have one now. no point in getting the samething

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1 hour ago, PurplDrank said:

If i had to switch to an intel processor which i7 would you pick? i do not want an i5 to be honest, i have one now. no point in getting the samething

The latest i7-8700K is by all accounts one of the best processors on the market right now. itll run you about $350 though. 

 

As a lot of the others in this thread have mentioned, the i5-8400 makes for a good budget processor . But personally I would go one step up and get an i5-8600K build as a more future proof choice with overclocking potential later on.  In some of the tests I've read, the i58600K outperforms the last model i7-7900's. 

 

here is a potential intel based build for you if you are interested. If I were building a PC today this is about what I would choose, though I might consider shelling out the extra cash for a 1070 (though its an extra $200) if you look at my pc specs in my signature, this is basically a 2018 version of my 2014 PC. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRbvWD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRbvWD/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($237.69 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.13 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($325.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1271.34

 

This processors is a 95Watt TDM (compared to the AMD 65 watt) so I put a much bigger cooler on (should still fit in your case though) And the power supply is better. And motherboard is a flagship MSI board. Also note that it has a 500gb SSD instead of 240 gb. 

 

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8 hours ago, AntiTrust said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRbvWD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cRbvWD/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($237.69 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.13 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($124.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($325.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-OMEGA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1271.34

 

Hey man!

 

I think that seon explained it very well and I do not think it was rude. I know that you want to help and you are on the right path. But in every budget build(it does not matter how huge the budget is) you have to make compromises. So you just have to look what the person you are making it for needs. In this case it is for gaming. Is is generally known that for gaming you need a good graphics card(the cpu also matters, but not as much).

 

So here are some improvements to your build and explanation:

1. Would not go for i5 8600k in this price range. But even if i would not pair it with anything lower than asrock extreme4. If you want to overclock you need a decent mb. This msi board you chose is really crappy. Would probably toast it if you tried to oc.

2. As this cpu does not come with cooler you will need one. You chose a good one but for the similar price you can have cryorig h7 which is in every aspect a little bit better when compared to evo 212 (better mounting, fan, ram clearance, lower height, looks nicer)

3. I like the rams actually I am considering them myself(mostly because where I live it is one of the cheapest options) but you could get g.skill ripjaws 2x8gb 3200mhz set for less. And the performance boost will be noticable in games when compared to 2400mhz set(quite slow for todays standards)

4. Storage is everyones personal choice from ssds i would recommend samsung 850 evo or crucial mx500 and for hdd i would definitely go for wd. The basics are 250gb ssd + 1tb hdd. But if you think you need less go for it.

5. As I said above the graphics card is crucial in gaming. So if you want to have more balanced system for 8600k would go for 1070 and higher. For 8400 it is like 1060 and higher. But you would cross the budget limit if you went for that (8600k/1070). And here you have to start thinking where to step down a little bit.

6. Case does not matter much as long as it is not a heatbox. It should have atleast some airflow preferably.

7. The psu is not the worst but would not pair it with this build. 650W is a overkill for this system(550W is more than enough) Here is a psu tier list take a look at it: 

 

So with this build I would go for tier 1-2 psu. They are meant for mid-top tier builds. Tier 3 is more for like low-mid builds. Tier 4 is for the old systems you do not care about but you want them to be running. And the others I would not recommend at all. Basically trash. For this build I would go for cooler master masterwatt 550.

 

That is all from me.

Keep it up man and good luck!

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2 hours ago, matus177 said:

Hey man!

 

I think that seon explained it very well and I do not think it was rude. I know that you want to help and you are on the right path. But in every budget build(it does not matter how huge the budget is) you have to make compromises. So you just have to look what the person you are making it for needs. In this case it is for gaming. Is is generally known that for gaming you need a good graphics card(the cpu also matters, but not as much).

 

So here are some improvements to your build and explanation:

1. Would not go for i5 8600k in this price range. But even if i would not pair it with anything lower than asrock extreme4. If you want to overclock you need a decent mb. This msi board you chose is really crappy. Would probably toast it if you tried to oc.

2. As this cpu does not come with cooler you will need one. You chose a good one but for the similar price you can have cryorig h7 which is in every aspect a little bit better when compared to evo 212 (better mounting, fan, ram clearance, lower height, looks nicer)

3. I like the rams actually I am considering them myself(mostly because where I live it is one of the cheapest options) but you could get g.skill ripjaws 2x8gb 3200mhz set for less. And the performance boost will be noticable in games when compared to 2400mhz set(quite slow for todays standards)

4. Storage is everyones personal choice from ssds i would recommend samsung 850 evo or crucial mx500 and for hdd i would definitely go for wd. The basics are 250gb ssd + 1tb hdd. But if you think you need less go for it.

5. As I said above the graphics card is crucial in gaming. So if you want to have more balanced system for 8600k would go for 1070 and higher. For 8400 it is like 1060 and higher. But you would cross the budget limit if you went for that (8600k/1070). And here you have to start thinking where to step down a little bit.

6. Case does not matter much as long as it is not a heatbox. It should have atleast some airflow preferably.

7. The psu is not the worst but would not pair it with this build. 650W is a overkill for this system(550W is more than enough) Here is a psu tier list take a look at it: 

 

So with this build I would go for tier 1-2 psu. They are meant for mid-top tier builds. Tier 3 is more for like low-mid builds. Tier 4 is for the old systems you do not care about but you want them to be running. And the others I would not recommend at all. Basically trash. For this build I would go for cooler master masterwatt 550.

 

That is all from me.

Keep it up man and good luck!

I see what you are saying. Intel does perform a little better and lasts longer than AMD. I made an i7 build on pcpartspicker and the difference was only $200. I guess i have to decide if i want to spend that extra $200.

 

Anyway thank you all for your help 

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6 hours ago, matus177 said:

 

So here are some improvements to your build and explanation:

1. Would not go for i5 8600k in this price range. But even if i would not pair it with anything lower than asrock extreme4. If you want to overclock you need a decent mb. This msi board you chose is really crappy. Would probably toast it if you tried to oc.

2. As this cpu does not come with cooler you will need one. You chose a good one but for the similar price you can have cryorig h7 which is in every aspect a little bit better when compared to evo 212 (better mounting, fan, ram clearance, lower height, looks nicer)

3. I like the rams actually I am considering them myself(mostly because where I live it is one of the cheapest options) but you could get g.skill ripjaws 2x8gb 3200mhz set for less. And the performance boost will be noticable in games when compared to 2400mhz set(quite slow for todays standards)

4. Storage is everyones personal choice from ssds i would recommend samsung 850 evo or crucial mx500 and for hdd i would definitely go for wd. The basics are 250gb ssd + 1tb hdd. But if you think you need less go for it.

5. As I said above the graphics card is crucial in gaming. So if you want to have more balanced system for 8600k would go for 1070 and higher. For 8400 it is like 1060 and higher. But you would cross the budget limit if you went for that (8600k/1070). And here you have to start thinking where to step down a little bit.

6. Case does not matter much as long as it is not a heatbox. It should have atleast some airflow preferably.

7. The psu is not the worst but would not pair it with this build. 650W is a overkill for this system(550W is more than enough) Here is a psu tier list take a look at it: 

 

 

1. No it isn't crappy, and no it wouldnt blow it up. What makes you think it would?

2, My go to under 40$ cpu cooler is hyper 212. As it is for many others

3. yeah I agree for the price the RAM is pretty good. I'm not a huge fan of Gskill ram, you get what you pay for. 

4. yeah personal choice.

5. yes budget is the reason I didn't go 1070, 1060 should do fine in Arma, Tarkov etc that OP wants to play

6. agreed

7. thanks for the link 

 

 

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