gpu underperforming

[I is Rabbit]

Hi, my pc is underperforming a lot. Im playing farcry 5 on normal setting usually hanging out in the 50 fps area occasionally hitting 60 in some areas while my friend with a worse computer never gets under 80 on high. i have a gtx 1070, i5 6500, 16 gb ram, and he has 1060, sone i5, 8 gb ram. pls help.

[sazrocks]

What resolutions are each of you playing at?

[I is Rabbit]

9 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

What resolutions are each of you playing at?

1080 X 1920. the normal one. vsync is off of corse. nvidia pannel set to best performance. 

[sof006]

I could maybe recommend uninstalling drivers and fresh installing the latest drivers. What driver are you currently using?

[xFluing]

Does it still run like shit on medium? If not, try keep it there, there isn't much difference between medium or high these days, even so, the increase in graphics would be too insignificant to warrant the performance hit.

 

Also try to mess around with settings yourself, dont just use the preset, turn off useless shit like depth of field or chromatic abberation or motion blur (really, useless in any non-racing game)

 

Also its ubisoft, their games are notorious for bad optimization, I can run crysis 2 in 100+fps but far cry blood dragon struggles to get 60+

[I is Rabbit]

4 hours ago, xFluing said:

Does it still run like shit on medium? If not, try keep it there, there isn't much difference between medium or high these days, even so, the increase in graphics would be too insignificant to warrant the performance hit.

 

Also try to mess around with settings yourself, dont just use the preset, turn off useless shit like depth of field or chromatic abberation or motion blur (really, useless in any non-racing game)

 

Also its ubisoft, their games are notorious for bad optimization, I can run crysis 2 in 100+fps but far cry blood dragon struggles to get 60+

ik there is no difference. its very playable but im pissed that my 1070 gets worse fps in all games. pubg is unplayable for example. that same friend gets 90 fps. 

[dionkoffie]

what PSU do u have? Looks like ur PSU might not be able to power ur card. 

[Quadriplegic]

Also, what are your temps? 

[RyzenDoctor]

? ok... here is what you need to provide to get a semblance of useful advice:

1- complete specs including where your ram is installed (which slots)

2- thermals under load (run trial of Aida64)

3- GPU/CPU/FPS info through something like CAM or MSI afterburner

4- complete settings in the game you’re interested in. If it’s like GTA, there are advanced settings that can get a 1080ti to crawl

5- driver version

6- whether you tried DDU and a fresh install of Nvidia drivers

[I is Rabbit]

On 4/3/2018 at 6:58 AM, RyzenDoctor said:

? ok... here is what you need to provide to get a semblance of useful advice:

1- complete specs including where your ram is installed (which slots)

2- thermals under load (run trial of Aida64)

3- GPU/CPU/FPS info through something like CAM or MSI afterburner

4- complete settings in the game you’re interested in. If it’s like GTA, there are advanced settings that can get a 1080ti to crawl

5- driver version

6- whether you tried DDU and a fresh install of Nvidia drivers

I apologize in advance because i have no idea about computers. Ill do my best

1. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPjtZ8

i don't know which slots there are hopefully these pictures help. I tried to take the ram out but the plastic thing is very close to my gpu and i wont risk taking my gpu out because ill probably completely break my computer.

https://imgur.com/a/QWhMm

https://imgur.com/a/UMazW

 

2. no idea what this means, YouTube didn't help :*(. But if you mean overheating then i don't think it does

 

3. https://imgur.com/a/QsVFb

i hope this is what you meant

 

4. 

texture - normal                                           v sync - off

shadows - normal                                        field of view - 90

geometry&vegetation - low                         resolution scale 1.5

environment - normal

water - low

terrain - normal

volumetric fog - low

anti-aliasing - TAA

motion blur- off

 

5.   391.35 (i assume the nvidia thing)

6. i reinstalled Nvidia drivers

 

Also another question i have, i tried to test how it would work in csgo as one of my friends told me i should be getting 300+ fps. on highest settings i get 150 fps, on lowest i get 80. Im not sure how this can happen so....

 

[RyzenDoctor]

15 hours ago, I is Rabbit said:

I apologize in advance because i have no idea about computers. Ill do my best

1. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPjtZ8

i don't know which slots there are hopefully these pictures help. I tried to take the ram out but the plastic thing is very close to my gpu and i wont risk taking my gpu out because ill probably completely break my computer.

https://imgur.com/a/QWhMm

https://imgur.com/a/UMazW

 

2. no idea what this means, YouTube didn't help :*(. But if you mean overheating then i don't think it does

 

3. https://imgur.com/a/QsVFb

i hope this is what you meant

 

4. 

texture - normal                                           v sync - off

shadows - normal                                        field of view - 90

geometry&vegetation - low                         resolution scale 1.5

environment - normal

water - low

terrain - normal

volumetric fog - low

anti-aliasing - TAA

motion blur- off

 

5.   391.35 (i assume the nvidia thing)

6. i reinstalled Nvidia drivers

 

Also another question i have, i tried to test how it would work in csgo as one of my friends told me i should be getting 300+ fps. on highest settings i get 150 fps, on lowest i get 80. Im not sure how this can happen so....

 

From the little that I can see from #3 your gfx card it not hitting >95% utilization at all, and your CPU cores are pegged at 100%. Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

that represents a CPU bottleneck. The processor is unable to feed the GPU data to process fast enough. When you lower your settings you are further exacerbating this as your GPU now is not having to do much and lays there waiting for the CPU to respond.

 

 

[RyzenDoctor]

Now since I am on an actual computer... yes your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, but looking at your settings you have resolution scale set to 1.5 meaning that your Gfx card is having to render at 50% high resolution and then downsample. Turn that down to 1. 

 

Increase your gfx settings a bit to offload the CPU (go to Ultra). You may be able to see some gains.

 

Here is what kind of FPS you can see in FC5

https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/far-cry-5/i5-7500

 

Regarding your ram, you're running in single channel mode (1 stick) but that should not be impacting you much (on an intel platform).

 

Edit: If you ever run into driver issues with Nvidia, use a program called DDU to cleanly remove the files and then reinstall 

 

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

[I is Rabbit]

5 hours ago, RyzenDoctor said:

Now since I am on an actual computer... yes your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, but looking at your settings you have resolution scale set to 1.5 meaning that your Gfx card is having to render at 50% high resolution and then downsample. Turn that down to 1. 

 

Increase your gfx settings a bit to offload the CPU (go to Ultra). You may be able to see some gains.

 

Here is what kind of FPS you can see in FC5

https://www.fpsbenchmark.com/far-cry-5/i5-7500

 

Regarding your ram, you're running in single channel mode (1 stick) but that should not be impacting you much (on an intel platform).

 

Edit: If you ever run into driver issues with Nvidia, use a program called DDU to cleanly remove the files and then reinstall 

 

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

oh my god thank you sooooo much. this fixed it !!!! in cities during combat im getting 70 and rarely hitting 60, while in the mountains im getting 80 and often 90. no more 50s and sometimes 60.

[pyrojoe34]

12 minutes ago, I is Rabbit said:

oh my god thank you sooooo much. this fixed it !!!! in cities during combat im getting 70 and rarely hitting 60, while in the mountains im getting 80 and often 90. no more 50s and sometimes 60.

Yea, resolution scale is your issue. You were basically playing at 1440p, not 1080p. In most cases there's no reason to go above 1 (also listed as 100% in some games) for resolution scaling, you should just stick with your monitor's native resolution. It is basically the most taxing/inefficient version of anti-aliasing.

[RyzenDoctor]

3 hours ago, pyrojoe34 said:

Yea, resolution scale is your issue. You were basically playing at 1440p, not 1080p. In most cases there's no reason to go above 1 (also listed as 100% in some games) for resolution scaling, you should just stick with your monitor's native resolution. It is basically the most taxing/inefficient version of anti-aliasing.

I really think games should just point to which settings are a significant drag on resources