First Time Overclocking : Core Clock Stuck?

[KaireFeare]

It's my first time overclocking

 

I'm running 

Intel 6700k

Z270 Maximus IX Apex

16 Gigs of RAM 

1060 6GB

 

 

So far, I've been able to hit 4.6Ghz on my chip, but for some reason the Multiplier is stuck at x46.

BLCK is 100, and all I'm doing is changing the multiplier, and trying to fine tune the voltage.

This is what CPU-Z is reporting, if you look to the bottom left corner where it says multiplier it's 46. In the bios I have it as 48.

 

Any clues as to why? 

I've tried using Load Optimized defaults, and redoing everything from there. 

Resetted CMOS with the button on the back of my mobo.

 

I can retry resetting CMOS, and etc. if needed. Toss me any suggestions.

[WallacEngineering]

10 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

It's my first time overclocking

 

I'm running 

Intel 6700k

Z270 Maximus IX Apex

16 Gigs of RAM 

1060 6GB

Possibly not enough voltage, leading the multiplier to lower itself upon boot?

 

Are you sure you selected "Save and Exit" upon leaving BIOS? Did the PC restart when this happened? It should have. Reboots are necessary upon any changes.

[KaireFeare]

Just now, WallacEngineering said:

Possibly not enough voltage, leading the multiplier to lower itself upon boot?

1.325 voltage isn't enough you think?

[WallacEngineering]

Just now, KaireFeare said:

1.325 voltage isn't enough you think?

Should be on the 6700K, but I did just update my last post. Did it successfully restart upon saving and exiting? If not, try again, and when it reboots, be sure to enter setup to see if your settings have taken effect.

[KaireFeare]

Just now, WallacEngineering said:

Should be on the 6700K, but I did just update my last post. Did it successfully restart upon saving and exiting? If not, try again, and when it reboots, be sure to enter setup to see if your settings have taken effect.

Yes it did successfully restart, I'd save and exit, then load into Windows, and check the clocks. Still showing 4.6Ghz. I can try again just to make sure. 

[WallacEngineering]

Just now, KaireFeare said:

Yes it did successfully restart, I'd save and exit, then load into Windows, and check the clocks. Still showing 4.6Ghz. I can try again just to make sure. 

Restart and head into BIOS first, see if your settings are "sticking". Always important to interrupt boot every time you make changes to double check settings before booting into Windows. So the order is: Restart>BIOS>Make Changes>Save & Exit>BIOS>Windows

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Should be on the 6700K, but I did just update my last post. Did it successfully restart upon saving and exiting? If not, try again, and when it reboots, be sure to enter setup to see if your settings have taken effect.

Depending on the quality of yours it might not be enough. Mine needs 1.4 just for 4.6, though granted my psu and mobo are eh and I have a really early 6700k. However, it should still go above 4.6

 

The interesting part is you can see the multiple range is up to 49 yet it stays at 46. Do you perhaps have some setting so that the 1 core OC is higher or something? Does it ever go above 4.6?

[KaireFeare]

5 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Restart and head into BIOS first, see if your settings are "sticking". Always important to interrupt boot every time you make changes to double check settings before booting into Windows. So the order is: Restart>BIOS>Make Changes>Save & Exit>BIOS>Windows

I just tried that, the settings stuck, but upon  checking CPU-Z, I still get the same multiplier. I just did voltages, and it's set to 1.3 right now, running at 4.6Ghz still.
 

Edit : @DocSwag yeah, when I had checked BIOS, my multiplier was actually at 49, but even before that, and now, it was 48. Still resulting in 4.6Ghz. My settings are to sync all the cores, so all cores would run at 4.8Ghz. I don't remember if I ever got it to go above 4.7. I think with ASUS auto tuning, it might've, but not too sure. If I set the multiplier to 50 it just doesn't post, and wants me to reset CMOS.

[WallacEngineering]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Depending on the quality of yours it might not be enough. Mine needs 1.4 just for 4.6, though granted my psu and mobo are eh and I have a really early 6700k. However, it should still go above 4.6

 

The interesting part is you can see the multiple range is up to 49 yet it stays at 46. Do you perhaps have some setting so that the 1 core OC is higher or something? Does it ever go above 4.6?

@KaireFeare as @DocSwag states here, if you lost the silicon lottery, you may yet need more voltage. But it is in fact weird that it doesn't just run at x49 and then just crash upon testing rather than just not showing up at all.

[KaireFeare]

Just now, WallacEngineering said:

@KaireFeare as @DocSwag states here, if you lost the silicon lottery, you may yet need more voltage. But it is in fact weird that it doesn't just run at x49 and then just crash upon testing rather than just not showing up at all.

Yeah, I definitely agree with you. I tried 49 before, and it would also just crash, but when I set 48 or 49 now, it runs through with it, but in reality it's only running at 4.6. 

I can try to hit the voltage to 1.37 and see if anything changes. 

[WallacEngineering]

Just now, KaireFeare said:

Yeah, I definitely agree with you. I tried 49 before, and it would also just crash, but when I set 48 or 49 now, it runs through with it, but in reality it's only running at 4.6. 

I can try to hit the voltage to 1.37 and see if anything changes. 

Do that, maybe some weird protection is preventing boot at x49 with that voltage.

[DocSwag]

11 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

I just tried that, the settings stuck, but upon  checking CPU-Z, I still get the same multiplier. I just did voltages, and it's set to 1.3 right now, running at 4.6Ghz still.
 

Edit : @DocSwag yeah, when I had checked BIOS, my multiplier was actually at 49, but even before that, and now, it was 48. Still resulting in 4.6Ghz. My settings are to sync all the cores, so all cores would run at 4.8Ghz. I don't remember if I ever got it to go above 4.7. I think with ASUS auto tuning, it might've, but not too sure. If I set the multiplier to 50 it just doesn't post, and wants me to reset CMOS.

Try updating your bios to the latest version.

[KaireFeare]

2 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Do that, maybe some weird protection is preventing boot at x49 with that voltage.

Same thing is occurring, 1.37, but still x46. Task Manager is reporting 4.6, CPUZ, HWInfo, and CAM from NZXT. So it's not a CPUZ issue.

 

Edit : @DocSwag I've tried updating my bios before, and that didn't go so well. BIOS versions are the same, but different dates. ASUS websites shows sometime this year, while the BIOS on the board shows December of 2017 iirc. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by KaireFeare

[WallacEngineering]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Try updating your bios go the latest version.

@KaireFeare I was literally typing this out as he posted it lol

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

Same thing is occurring, 1.37, but still x46. Task Manager is reporting 4.6, CPUZ, HWInfo, and CAM from NZXT. So it's not a CPUZ issue.

 

Edit : @DocSwag I've tried updating my bios before, and that didn't go so well. BIOS versions are the same, but different dates. ASUS websites shows sometime this year, while the BIOS on the board shows December of 2017 iirc. 

Are these clock speeds you're hitting when you load up the cpu? If so, what programs are you using to load the cpu?

[KaireFeare]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Are these clock speeds you're hitting when you load up the cpu? If so, what programs are you using to load the cpu?

Just tried flashing bios, no good, it just gives me an error code. And yes those are the clockspeeds I'm hitting when putting a load on the CPU. Prime95, and Cinebench R15. I've tried playing games, Fortnite for one and it seemed stable, no crashes.

[WallacEngineering]

8 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

Edit : @DocSwag I've tried updating my bios before, and that didn't go so well. BIOS versions are the same, but different dates. ASUS websites shows sometime this year, while the BIOS on the board shows December of 2017 iirc. 

Well Ive seen people download Z370 versions of BIOS for Z270 boards and vise versa. With all the letters and numbers specifically with Intel, this is an easy mistake to make. I would try again and before pressing the download button, make sure that EVERY SINGLE letter and number on the download page MATCHES your motherboard EXACTLY

[DocSwag]

Just now, KaireFeare said:

Just tried flashing bios, no good, it just gives me an error code. And yes those are the clockspeeds I'm hitting when putting a load on the CPU. Prime95, and Cinebench R15. I've tried playing games, Fortnite for one and it seemed stable, no crashes.

Could you try using AIDA64? When you do it, try it stressing CPU and FPU as well as stressing just CPU, and see if there's any difference.

[WallacEngineering]

2 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

Just tried flashing bios, no good, it just gives me an error code. And yes those are the clockspeeds I'm hitting when putting a load on the CPU. Prime95, and Cinebench R15. I've tried playing games, Fortnite for one and it seemed stable, no crashes.

Are you using this exact link? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX/HelpDesk/

[KaireFeare]

1 minute ago, WallacEngineering said:

Well Ive seen people download Z370 versions of BIOS for Z270 boards and vise versa. With all the letters and numbers specifically with Intel, this is an easy mistake to make. I would try again and before pressing the download button, make sure that EVERY SINGLE letter and number on the download page MATCHES your motherboard EXACTLY

The only way for the PC to correctly boot after the Bios fail is to clear CMOS, then it seems to resume. I just go to the the Maximus 9 Apex page on Asus and take the latest download from there. Version 1203 download, and it's the same thing on the board. 

 

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Could you try using AIDA64? When you do it, try it stressing CPU and FPU as well as stressing just CPU, and see if there's any difference.

Yeah sure I'll do that in a sec 

 

[WallacEngineering]

2 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

Just tried flashing bios, no good, it just gives me an error code. And yes those are the clockspeeds I'm hitting when putting a load on the CPU. Prime95, and Cinebench R15. I've tried playing games, Fortnite for one and it seemed stable, no crashes.

Are you using this exact link? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX/HelpDesk/

[WallacEngineering]

1 minute ago, KaireFeare said:

The only way for the PC to correctly boot after the Bios fail is to clear CMOS, then it seems to resume. I just go to the the Maximus 9 Apex page on Asus and take the latest download from there. Version 1203 download, and it's the same thing on the board. 

 

Oh this is why you are getting this error, if you already have 1203 then it cant update to the same thing so it will error out, so BIOS update isn't the issue

[KaireFeare]

6 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Are you using this exact link? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX/HelpDesk/

Sorry for the long reply, took awhile for the PC to start in Windows again. Yes I'm using that exact link. 

 

4 minutes ago, WallacEngineering said:

Oh this is why you are getting this error, if you already have 1203 then it cant update to the same thing so it will error out, so BIOS update isn't the issue

It's the most recent version. 

 

9 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Could you try using AIDA64? When you do it, try it stressing CPU and FPU as well as stressing just CPU, and see if there's any difference.

My internet is being quite the pain and is saying an hour to download a 49 MB file...

 

Edit : Just aida64's download servers being trash.

 

Stressing CPU and FPU, still stuck at 4.6.

 

Stressing CPU only also is stuck at 4.6.

[WallacEngineering]

2 minutes ago, KaireFeare said:

My internet is being quite the pain and is saying an hour to download a 49 MB file...

Edit : Just aida64's download servers being trash.

Lol mines just trash right now due to having just installed my new SSD an hour ago and Steam currently downloading 25 games, so I kinda did it to myself

[KaireFeare]

Just now, WallacEngineering said:

Lol mines just trash right now due to having just installed my new SSD an hour ago and Steam currently downloading 25 games, so I kinda did it to myself

Mhm, I feel you. Having that many games queue'd up, and it's taking up all the bandwidth.