First time build

[loongonn22]

I am a first time builder and I would like to get into pc gaming and some video editing in my free time and I have picked these parts out.

AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor

MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB StormX Video Card

Corsair - SPEC-ALPHA (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case

Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

TP-Link - TG-3468 PCI-Express x1 10/100/1000 Mbps Network Adapter

BitFenix - BFF-BLF-P12025R-RP 51.3 CFM 120mm Fan (because I want an extra red led fan)

My budget is 600 GBP

I would like some feed back and maybe some part switches but I would like to stay in AMD and not Intel, any help is greatly appreciated!

[butler1233]

Yo britfriend

 

I would suggest the following:

It's not really worth having a 1tb hard drive and separate 120gb boot ssd. For the two of them combined you should be able to get a reasonable size SSD. Keep it SATA if you have to, but it will be miles better than having to use a mechanical drive regularly. 

 

Why have you added a network card? It's no better and may actually be worse than the integrated one you have. Do you actually need multiple Ethernet ports? If not, drop the TG-3468

 

You could probably save 20 quid or so on a cheaper motherboard if you need to stretch for other components.

 

If you can stretch to at least a Ryzen 5 1400 for an extra 40ish, you'll get a lot more mileage out of the build. 

 

However, I do have the following comments. 

 

8GB of ram will not get you very far. I'd suggest getting more but ram is stupidly overpriced at the moment. 

If you can actually get the 1050ti for a decent price (or at all), I'll be surprised

And like I said, you don't really want to bother going bottom of the stack with the CPU. You'd be better off buying a prebuilt from currys in that case. 

 

[8-Bit Ninja]

7 minutes ago, butler1233 said:

Yo britfriend

 

I would suggest the following:

It's not really worth having a 1tb hard drive and separate 120gb boot ssd. For the two of them combined you should be able to get a reasonable size SSD. Keep it SATA if you have to, but it will be miles better than having to use a mechanical drive regularly. 

 

Why have you added a network card? It's no better and may actually be worse than the integrated one you have. Do you actually need multiple Ethernet ports? If not, drop the TG-3468

 

You could probably save 20 quid or so on a cheaper motherboard if you need to stretch for other components.

 

If you can stretch to at least a Ryzen 5 1400 for an extra 40ish, you'll get a lot more mileage out of the build. 

 

However, I do have the following comments. 

 

8GB of ram will not get you very far. I'd suggest getting more but ram is stupidly overpriced at the moment. 

If you can actually get the 1050ti for a decent price (or at all), I'll be surprised

And like I said, you don't really want to bother going bottom of the stack with the CPU. You'd be better off buying a prebuilt from currys in that case. 

 

literally everything you just said was wrong  

[Ms Mercedes - Trijet Girl]

 

8 minutes ago, butler1233 said:

Yo britfriend

 

I would suggest the following:

It's not really worth having a 1tb hard drive and separate 120gb boot ssd. For the two of them combined you should be able to get a reasonable size SSD. Keep it SATA if you have to, but it will be miles better than having to use a mechanical drive regularly. 

 

Why have you added a network card? It's no better and may actually be worse than the integrated one you have. Do you actually need multiple Ethernet ports? If not, drop the TG-3468

 

You could probably save 20 quid or so on a cheaper motherboard if you need to stretch for other components.

 

If you can stretch to at least a Ryzen 5 1400 for an extra 40ish, you'll get a lot more mileage out of the build. 

 

However, I do have the following comments. 

 

8GB of ram will not get you very far. I'd suggest getting more but ram is stupidly overpriced at the moment. 

If you can actually get the 1050ti for a decent price (or at all), I'll be surprised

And like I said, you don't really want to bother going bottom of the stack with the CPU. You'd be better off buying a prebuilt from currys in that case. 

 

Respectfully, I disagree with this premise.

 

I have a 1tb HDD and a a 240GB SSD. The SSD is the boot drive and the drive for any drive-intensive games, and the HDD is for everything else.

 

I don't recommend a gaming rig with anything less than 1tb. Games can be pretty hefty and you'll run out of space pretty quickly.

 

8GB of RAM is also fine unless they're trying to multitask (streaming, video editing, etc) simultaneously or wish to have a bunch of background apps open while playing games.

[butler1233]

2 minutes ago, Ms Mercedes - Trijet Girl said:

 

Respectfully, I disagree with this premise.

 

I have a 1tb HDD and a a 240GB SSD. The SSD is the boot drive and the drive for any drive-intensive games, and the HDD is for everything else.

 

I don't recommend a gaming rig with anything less than 1tb. Games can be pretty hefty and you'll run out of space pretty quickly.

 

8GB of RAM is also fine unless they're trying to multitask (streaming, video editing, etc) simultaneously or wish to have a bunch of background apps open while playing games.

As you've provided reasons for your disagreements, I'll respond.

 

I totally agree that with a large game library, having a mechanical drive for the less played or less drive using games makes sense. My concern was that the 120gb drive may run out of space before OP has everything he needs installed there, and will likely not have enough space for any large games. I had a very similar set up to yours (250gb boot ssd with a few games and the rest on a 1tb HDD) and it worked reasonably well. 

 

My ram suggested wasn't for the games (I don't know how much ram games really use these days, I've got enough that I don't need to worry and I don't game that much anyway) but for the video editing. Depending on what editing suite is in use, ram usage will go through the roof (and the page file will probably be used *heavily*, severely degrading the system performance). For example, I had a 720p 2minute Premiere Pro project open and a few 720p compositions open in After effects, and during rendering, AE was using 14GB of my systems 16, and even at idle, after conforming audio and previews, premiere and AE suck up a lot. 

 

Editing was my reasoning for the Cpu upgrade too. 

 

I would agree almost entirely with you if it was gaming only. 

[Ms Mercedes - Trijet Girl]

1 minute ago, butler1233 said:

As you've provided reasons for your disagreements, I'll respond.

 

I totally agree that with a large game library, having a mechanical drive for the less played or less drive using games makes sense. My concern was that the 120gb drive may run out of space before OP has everything he needs installed there, and will likely not have enough space for any large games. I had a very similar set up to yours (250gb boot ssd with a few games and the rest on a 1tb HDD) and it worked reasonably well. 

 

My ram suggested wasn't for the games (I don't know how much ram games really use these days, I've got enough that I don't need to worry and I don't game that much anyway) but for the video editing. Depending on what editing suite is in use, ram usage will go through the roof (and the page file will probably be used *heavily*, severely degrading the system performance). For example, I had a 720p 2minute Premiere Pro project open and a few 720p compositions open in After effects, and during rendering, AE was using 14GB of my systems 16, and even at idle, after conforming audio and previews, premiere and AE suck up a lot. 

 

Editing was my reasoning for the Cpu upgrade too. 

 

I would agree almost entirely with you if it was gaming only. 

Fair enough! I somehow missed the video editing part! I'm using the dark mode and have to highlight the OP's post. lol But yeah, if they're using any sort of intensive video editor (I'm a cheapskate so I use whatever you can get for free) they will probably want more space to play!

[loongonn22]

Thanks for all the help, didn't realise the Ethernet on the mobo even tho I looked at the specs idk how I missed it, is there any mobo suggestions if I could save some money on it?

[dizmo]

Welcome to the forum!

 

Most of the time with builds we use PCPartPicker here. It gives you the lowest prices, and helps with compatibility.

Only really useful if you're in one of the supported countries though. There's a menu at the top left where you can change it.

 

The build looks fine, though I'd try and get faster RAM, and skip the network card as the motherboard already has one.

I have a feeling there are better PSUs out there as well.

[loongonn22]

if there is anything that could be cheaper please let me know

[Herman Mcpootis]

you can try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£117.59 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£59.66 @ YoYoTech) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£84.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£66.54 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB StormX Video Card  (£169.97 @ More Computers) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.76 @ CCL Computers) 
Other: Gamemax centuri (£27.36)
Total: £610.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-06 01:33 GMT+0000

[shea99]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

you can try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£117.59 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£59.66 @ YoYoTech) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£84.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£66.54 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£33.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card  (£169.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£50.76 @ CCL Computers) 
Other: Gamemax centuri (£27.36)
Total: £610.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-06 01:31 GMT+0000

This, leaves option to upgrade RAM down the line aswell 

[SliceT]

MSI has crap VRMs, a good video about it.

https://youtu.be/vcqu-9Ejf60?t=1098